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DE/LB Nathan Williams (official thread)

I realize we try to run a program with as much class and fairness as humanly possible, but in a not-so-long ago situation, a USC player just so happened to be involved in an "altercation" (for lack of a better word)

However after a talk with his coach, was pretty much cleared to play after most of the information about said event was kept quiet for some time.

I understand innocent until provent guilty, but if he's not being charged yet or at all, I really feel he should have a chance to play. What he can bring to the field at paticular times just can't be denied. He has energy and a motor that our D-line really needs to feed from and try to match that.


I just don't want to see a promising career end: or begin with such a rocky path.
 
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I understand that Nathan didn't have the best quality of a friend with him, however, I do think that what he did (if it is true) is admirable considering it would of meant jail time for his friend. I dont know if he has leaked his friends name, but at the time a friend needed him he sacrificed alot ( may not of know it at the time). It's difficult seeing a friend go to Jail, especially if its something you could of prevented. I'm not angry at Nathan if anything I'm proud to have him on our team, especially consdering the bull rush this kid is capale of.
 
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Some recent comments in this thread seem to indicate that some folks may be willing to forgive an error in judgment because of a player's pass rushing abilities. I'm also getting a sense that some folks think a player shouldn't be penalized as severely as somebody else if he's a better player than the other guy.

I'm of the opinion that discipline on the team is very important; and that every player should be treated as equally as possible based on their transgressions, regardless of their perceived value to the team. To do otherwise can create real problems.

Having everybody on the team aware of what type of punishment is probable for a potential undesired action is a real deterrent to those undesired actions.
 
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I do doubt that most people just want him because of his abilities, regardless of how substantial they are. I believe that most people on this forum want to see every player succeed and excel in football and in life. From my understanding it is Nathans first infraction. I'd just like to see the guy get a second chance before thrown into the dog house.
 
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As the NCAA saying goes "There are 380,000 student athletes and just about everyone of them will go pro in something other than sports". He did a noble thing but as they also say chivalry died a hundred years ago. I wish him the best of luck and hope he can move on.


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Snappy_Jay;1360465; said:
As the NCAA saying goes "There are 380,000 student athletes and just about everyone of them will go pro in something other than sports". He did a STUPID thing but as they also say chivalry died a hundred years ago. I wish him the best of luck and hope he can move on.


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Sorry, but there was nothing "noble" about it.
 
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BLARG!!!! Okay, well... hmmm...

I guess the negative has been brought out by most posters here, and rightfully so. This was a stupid mistake and I trust JT will hand down the appropriate punishment (regardless of his pass rushing abilities).

On an optimistic note, hopefully this will turn into more of a Pitcock story. I can't remember what he did (underaged drinking at a party maybe), but he got busted his freshman year, and then he turned out to be an emotional and physical leader on an excellent Buckeye team. Nathan, if you're out there, you've got to decide if you'll take the Pitcock path or the more self-destructive path.
 
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OSU notebook: Freshman paying for arrest
Williams restricted to hotel while teammates sightsee
Thursday, January 1, 2009
By Ken Gordon and Tim May
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- There was a Nathan Williams sighting yesterday, a rarity for the Ohio State defensive end on this trip.

As a result of Williams being arrested and charged with shoplifting Dec. 10, the freshman is dealing with some serious restrictions while the Buckeyes prepare for the Fiesta Bowl on Monday.

He practiced with the team at Pinnacle High School yesterday, but he's virtually on "hotel arrest" and not allowed to spend his free time enjoying the sights.

"He's paying a very severe price for his mistake; he's not real comfortable right now," defensive coordinator Jim Heacock said. "And rightly so. He screwed up. He's got a lot of things, hurdles that he's going to have to jump."

Heacock said he thinks Williams will play, but he's not sure how extensively. Coach Jim Tressel will make that call, and he was not available for interviews yesterday.

Williams was caught leaving a Macy's store in the Mall at Fairfield Commons in suburban Dayton with three shirts valued at $80. He told The Dispatch that his friend took the shirts, but Williams agreed to take the blame because his friend had been in prior legal trouble.

He has pleaded not guilty to the first-degree misdemeanor.

Williams, from Washington Court House, had seen increased playing time as the season progressed and was solidly in the rotation by season's end. He finished with 17 tackles and two sacks.

BuckeyeXtra - The Columbus Dispatch : OSU notebook: Freshman paying for arrest
 
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Nathan Williams' case settled
Defensive end Nathan Williams pleaded guilty to a reduced charge and was fined $150 earlier this month, settling the case that began with him being charged with theft after a December 2008 incident at a Dayton-area mall.

Williams and a friend were stopped by security personnel as they were leaving Macy's in the Mall at Fairfield Commons, and Williams had three shirts valued at about $80. He told the Dispatch his friend had taken them, and when it was apparent they were going to be stopped, Williams agreed to take the shirts -- and the blame -- because his friend had been in prior legal trouble and another offense would mean jail time.

Williams originally pleaded not guilty to two first-degree misdemeanor charges: theft and possession of criminal tools.

In Fairborn Municipal Court on April 16, he pleaded guilty to a fourth-degree misdemeanor charge of unauthorized use of property, and the second charge was dropped. A 30-day jail sentence was suspended.

Nathan Williams' case settled (Blogging the Buckeyes)
 
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Just because I'm an elitist doesn't always mean I know what's going on...or that I have to follow the rules. :biggrin:

Someone emailed me today and asked what was going on with Nathan Williams...and I missed the entire Illinois game so I wasn't sure if he got hurt or what...
 
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