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ORD_Buckeye said:
The NFL: New Facility (or we) Leave.
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Respectfully - having been to two games in Nashville (both Titans games). Nissan stadium is a concrete pile of shit.
Blame the Braves and the Atlanta Battery. More and more new stadiums will be built with an "Arena/Stadium" district around them. 10-12+ restaurants, shopping, bars, music. It's a lot of fun and the team gets a little bit of every dollar spent once you park your car.


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BigWoof31 said:
Respectfully - having been to two games in Nashville (both Titans games). Nissan stadium is a concrete pile of shit.
Blame the Braves and the Atlanta Battery. More and more new stadiums will be built with an "Arena/Stadium" district around them. 10-12+ restaurants, shopping, bars, music. It's a lot of fun and the team gets a little bit of every dollar spent once you park your car.


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All of which would organically appear around any well planned new stadium. The taxpayers buying it for the richest sports league in human history is not a necessity. It's just that cities are too scared to be the first to call their bluff. The NFL plays their cards well, and I think the only way to end their racket would be for some kind of federal limitation limiting stadium subsidies.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
All of which would organically appear around any well planned new stadium. The taxpayers buying it for the richest sports league in human history is not a necessity. It's just that cities are too scared to be the first to call their bluff. The NFL plays their cards well, and I think the only way to end their racket would be for some kind of federal limitation limiting stadium subsidies.
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I'm not arguing ORD - I'm genuinely curious how most of these negotiations go with local cities/counties/municipalities.

Is it:
1). Owner demands the taxpayers pay for everything new and just eats increased property taxes due to the value of the site increasing. Owner shares revenue on all non-sports events (concerts, WWE, motocross...etc). Taxes go up but the owner doesn't have to fork over (or finance) the billions to get the project built.

2). Owners agree to pay for construction of the project. It's largely self funded or self financed but then doesn't want to pay taxes for the next 20 years and shares no revenue from non-sporting events.

3). Some combination of 1 and 2

4). Neither BigWoof - it's something different.
 
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BigWoof31 said:
I'm not arguing ORD - I'm genuinely curious how most of these negotiations go with local cities/counties/municipalities.

Is it:
1). Owner demands the taxpayers pay for everything new and just eats increased property taxes due to the value of the site increasing. Owner shares revenue on all non-sports events (concerts, WWE, motocross...etc). Taxes go up but the owner doesn't have to fork over (or finance) the billions to get the project built.

2). Owners agree to pay for construction of the project. It's largely self funded or self financed but then doesn't want to pay taxes for the next 20 years and shares no revenue from non-sporting events.

3). Some combination of 1 and 2

4). Neither BigWoof - it's something different.
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Not an expert on it, but I think it varies. The NFL's beginning position is build it entirely for us and then give us a multi-decade tax break on revenue. The negotiations go from there. The one thing that both sides try to avoid at all costs is actually having it decided in an election.

I certainly think there's a corruption aspect to it too. Look at Lightfoot in Chicago. She groveled and promised $2B to keep the Bears in Soldier Field. Why? I'd estimate that 95% of the voters who give a shit live in the suburbs anyways. Meanwhile, the Michigan Avenue bridge over the river is shut down today for "emergency repairs," but let's shovel two-large to the freakin' NFL.
 
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I personally don’t get the attraction of billion dollar disposable stadiums that get replaced every 20 years. Walking into a stadium that players and fans have been using for 100 years, and will probably be using for another hundred years, is an emotional experience. It connects us to people long gone and yet to be born through the shared experience of witnessing an event in same place. Going to a game at one of these new arenas seems more like a trip to the mall. I’d rather just watch it on television. Then again, I don’t get the attraction of the NFL in general, so I guess that makes me some sort of outlier.
 
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wolves2002 said:
The Tuesday and Wednesday happen to be New Year's Eve and New Year's Day. So, traditional days for college bowl games.
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Yep. Until the calendar is fixed to always having January 1 on a Saturday, it'll continue to change each year.

For the round earlier, you want to have at least a week between the first round and January 1, so it looks like they moved it to a 10-day separation to the weekend. Put one of the 4 games on Friday so you don't have to try to overlap them all on Saturday.

The next round, I'm sure they'd love to have the game on Saturday. But do you really want to poke the bear? The NFL has gone a long time of not having games on Saturday. I believe that there is an anti-trust agreement where they say they won't have games on Saturday until the middle of December, or something. Is it a coincidence that that's after college football is done? Anyway, I'd imagine that if the NFL really wanted to declare war on the NCAA, they could fight that and get games on Saturday. Most of us would still watch college football, but there are plenty who wouldn't. The NCAA should not want a war with the NFL. Don't fire the first shot by scheduling games during the NFL playoffs.

As for having the championship on a Monday, that's how it's been since at least the BCS started.
 
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