College Playoff

[scott91575]

eh....

I can see the [Mark May] storm that will brew when #4 rank beats #6 rank early in season, but #6 gets in because it won the conf and #4 lost to the #1 team

The same answer everytime is "you should not have lost.". Teams only have themselves to blame in this scenario.

 

[Bucknut24]

The same answer everytime is "you should not have lost.". Teams only have themselves to blame in this scenario.

but that #6 team lost..why shouldn't they be punished?


It's why I just think it needs to be top 4 teams that's it...if there are 2 SEC teams so be it, there will be a year with 2 Big 10 teams (2005/2006 are examples)

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

It would be hilarious to see #2 ND shut out of a playoff. But I think they'll add a compromise for Independents that are in the top-3 or top-4, in order to get Swarbrick/ND on board. But that should be for Independents only, not for conference runner-ups. All of the Presidents should vote for that, and say to hell with the SEC/ESPN agenda of trying to get a 2nd SEC team included each year.

Compromise to the domer mind means they get a spot in a four team playoff provided they're ranked in the final top 8.

 

[Gatorubet]

CHICAGO (AP) -- Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany says a model being considered for a four-team college football playoff would give preference to conference champions ranked in the top-six nationally.
CBSSports.com reports that Delany spoke to a group of reporters during a meeting at the Big Ten headquarters in Chicago.

My own alma mater has anal raped at least two conference champions who had no business being as highly ranked as they were. There was the raping of undefeated conference champion W. Virginia in the Sugar Bowl in the early 1990s, and the raping of undefeated conference champion Ohio's BCS Team by Tebow and Co. in 2010, also in the SB.

I give two [Mark May]s about "conference champion" status. Because that status does not relate to who is the "best" team. Any metric that does not directly relate to the actual "strength" of who the best four teams are has no business being a qualifier. IMO.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I really don't how many times I fucking have to say this: 16-team playoff. It eliminates all the "shitstorm" scenarios and bitching about weak-assed conference champs getting in over a team that beat them earlier. And don't give me that "it makes the regular season worhtless" bullshit because the regular season is stil vital since it still detemines who gets in the playoffs and at what seed. Every other college and pro sport does it, including all other levels of college football...no reason why FBS (I-A) football can't.

 

[jwinslow]

You can repeat yourself as much as you want, it doesn't change the widely held opinions that 16 teams lets in a LOT of mediocrity, particularly in the 12-16 range.

3 & 4 loss seasons weasel their way into a 16 team playoff. That's a gigantic hit to the excitement and meaning of the regular season just to make sure no one gets their feelings hurt about being left out.

 

[Oh8ch]

I really don't how many times I [censored]ing have to say this: 16-team playoff.

It is not an opinion, but a statistical fact, that the more teams you let into a playoff (assuming a non-random selection process) the less likely that you are to crown a true champion (whatever that may mean).

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

You can repeat yourself as much as you want, it doesn't change the widely held opinions that 16 teams lets in a LOT of mediocrity, particularly in the 12-16 range.

The only "widely-held" opinions against 16-team playoffs are by those who don't want a playoff in the first place.

It is not an opinion, but a statistical fact, that the more teams you let into a playoff (assuming a non-random selection process) the less likely that you are to crown a true champion (whatever that may mean).

And the fewer teams you let in, the more controversy you have and the bigger the chances of leaving out a deserving team solely because of their schedule, conference, or an early loss. The I-AA, II, and III models have worked for decades, yet the BCS refuses to use it for I-A. And there is no real way to crown a "true" champion, or else we wouldn't be having these debates...

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

My own alma mater has anal raped at least two conference champions who had no business being as highly ranked as they were.

Holy hell. When I first read that I thought you were referring to 2006. That would have been ugly.

There was the raping of undefeated conference champion W. Virginia in the Sugar Bowl in the early 1990s, and the raping of undefeated conference champion Ohio's BCS Team by Tebow and Co. in 2010, also in the SB.

 

[jwinslow]

\The only "widely-held" opinions against 16-team playoffs are by those who don't want a playoff in the first place.

"uh", nope, but nice try.

I think an 8 team playoff which cannot be expanded to 16 would be perfect, but it would need to be fed by bigger conferences.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Does everyone realize that controversy is one of the things that keeps College Football popular? Here it is, May 3, 2012, and we're talking about CFB and controversies. Was Bama over rated... etc..

Changing to a playoff system to avoid controversy is a stupid reason... its an invalid premise to begin with.

 

[BUCKYLE]

My own alma mater has anal raped at least two conference champions who had no business being as highly ranked as they were. There was the raping of undefeated conference champion W. Virginia in the Sugar Bowl in the early 1990s, and the raping of undefeated conference champion Ohio's BCS Team by Tebow and Co. in 2010, also in the SB.

I give two [Mark May]s about "conference champion" status. Because that status does not relate to who is the "best" team. Any metric that does not directly relate to the actual "strength" of who the best four teams are has no business being a qualifier. IMO.

I believe had a four team playoff existed then, the rankings would have been different. Basically what I think is gonna happen is that the pollsters will take the champions of the four toughest conferences in their eyes and rank them #1-#4.

 

[knapplc]

I really don't how many times I fucking have to say this: 16-team playoff. It eliminates all the "shitstorm" scenarios and bitching about weak-assed conference champs getting in over a team that beat them earlier. And don't give me that "it makes the regular season worhtless" bullshit because the regular season is stil vital since it still detemines who gets in the playoffs and at what seed. Every other college and pro sport does it, including all other levels of college football...no reason why FBS (I-A) football can't.

The reason this is the BEST scenario is that the current plan, without using Delaney's "conference champ preference" model, spells the end of the Conference Championship Game and all the millions of dollars that go along with it. No conference is going to want their potential National Championship contender knocked out of the game because of a Conference Championship Game loss.

You know who doesn't have a CCG and loves the current non-Delaney plan? The Big XII.

 

[BB73]

Here's what Fiutak says the new proposal would have resulted in during the BCS era.

CFN

 

[knapplc]

Does everyone realize that controversy is one of the things that keeps College Football popular? Here it is, May 3, 2012, and we're talking about CFB and controversies. Was Bama over rated... etc..

Changing to a playoff system to avoid controversy is a stupid reason... its an invalid premise to begin with.

Controversy for the sake of controversy is an invalid premise. You're saying that we wouldn't be talking college football right now if we had a playoff installed ten years ago? Maybe you wouldn't. I would.

NFL boards have traffic right now. MLB boards have traffic in the middle of the winter. If you love your sport you'll talk about it whenever, and not because of some artificially-created controversy.

Heck, HuskerBoard just had a get-together a month ago at a Lincoln bar. Not one time was the BCS brought up. We talked about our team, the Big Ten, the Big XII, other teams in general, but nothing at all about the artificial controversy generated by the polls/BCS. This is a total red herring.