College Playoff

[HorseshoeFetish]

So it's a fact that the college sport that is by far the most popular & lucrative needs to change to a system that won't fix any of the problems that people complain about eh?

Interesting things, facts.

Yes it needs a change..but using the same flawed inputs will create the same flawed outputs in any system.

 

[jwinslow]

You're right..less of a fact..it's more of a truth.

No, it's not, no matter how much importance you try to ascribe to your personal opinions.

Seriously one team winning one game doesn't make that team the best team in the country. And looking at the sugarbowl losing said game doesn't mean you are not the best team in the country either.

The same can be said in a playoff setting.

The New York Giants weren't the best team in the country a few years ago, but they got hot at the right time and took down an incredible Patriots team.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I like it, except what if your team DOESN'T suck? You have ABSOLUTELY no way of getting in?

How about making each of the major conferences also have minor conferences. Like, Big Ten Major, and Big Ten Minor. Each year, the worst 3-4 teams in the major conference drops to the minor conference, and the best 3-4 teams in the minor conference gets promoted to the major conference. That way, the Poopstoppers University Plungers have a chance to get into a major conference and then to the national championship game, should they win the conference and the playoff game.

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Fuck That. Fuck That Long and Fuck It Hard. Fuck It With Ron Jeremy's Fucking Cock!

So after more than a century of tradition and shared allegiance, IU or Minnesota might get "dropped" out of the Big Ten to make room for Fredo or Ball Fucking State. UCLA or Washington drop out of the PAC to make room for a fucking Truck Driver College.

Fuck these little shit schools. They made the choice decades ago to not invest in their football programs and build large stadiums and now they want to chomp down on a piece of pie that they didn't help bake.

 

[buckeyesin07]

AQ: Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Pac-12, Big 12

Two highest ranked AQ conference champs get a bye
Third highest ranked AQ champ vs Lowest ranked AQ champ or highest ranked non-AQ champ (lower ranked)
Fourth highest ranked AQ champ vs Lowest ranked AQ champ or highest ranked non-AQ champ (higher ranked)

Highest ranked AQ champ vs Fourth highest ranked/other
Second highest ranked AQ champ vs Third highest ranked/other

Boom. No guaranteed spot for the Big East, no match-ups determined by conference affiliation, no non-conference winners, fewer non-AQ teams bitching.

This I could live with. I think you've got to win your conference to get into the tournament.

 

[Sportsbuck28]

I think starting off with the plus one model is a good way to go.

 

[buckeyesin07]

3. Speaking of at-large bids - Michigan? 10-2 might be good enough, but did the Sugar Bowl see them play? They beat Notre Dame due to Notre Dame's defenders' inability to turn around and see the ball. They looked silly against Michigan State. They didn't look impressive against Ohio State. I don't think they are a BCS Bowl-caliber team, yet.

Agreed. They had a joke of a schedule, should've lost to Notre Dame, and barely escaped at home against a 6-6 OSU team that was, if we're being honest, limping to the end of the season. That UM team doesn't deserve to be in the Cap One bowl, more less a BCS bowl.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

This relegation nonsense is bull[Mark May]. It's just a crutch that some little school fans cling to in the hopes that stringing a few good seasons together bumps them up to a big boy conference--something they have never earned over time either in terms of their play on the field or their investment off of it.

Gee, I know the fix for college football. Let's take one of the most popular sports in America, a sport that was wildly popular before the NFL even existed and "fix" it by making it more like European Soccer because we all know how [censored]ing popular soccer is in America.

 

[buckeyegrad]

Agreed. They had a joke of a schedule, should've lost to Notre Dame, and barely escaped at home against a 6-6 OSU team that was, if we're being honest, limping to the end of the season. That UM team doesn't deserve to be in the Cap One bowl, more less a BCS bowl.

Except, qualification as a BSC at-large team really rests on # of wins + revenue generating potential. Quality of wins means nothing, especially if the second half of the equation is large--which is the case for scUM.

 

[BigWoof31]

In these playoff scenarios - what does the regular season look like?

Do we drop all cupcake games? How many non-conference games/year do you get?
If its just one, we'd be stuck playing Georgia Tech every year while teams without OOC annual rivalries get to float around and play other teams?

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

No, it's not, no matter how much importance you try to ascribe to your personal opinions.The same can be said in a playoff settiings

The New York Giants weren't the best team in the country a few years ago, but they got hot at the right time and took down an incredible Patriots team.

I think you overestimate my care to be deemed important.

As far as thePatriots..I wanted them to win..just to shut up Mercury Morris. That being said..They got beat.

 

[jwinslow]

I think you overestimate my care to be deemed important.

I'm going by your mischaracterization of opinions as absolutes, whether you call them facts, truths or whatever the next word may be.

I have no idea what your emotions are behind that, I'm simply discussing what those statements are / aren't.

 

[OH10]

The New York Giants weren't the best team in the country a few years ago, but they got hot at the right time and took down an incredible Patriots team.

And yet no one complained about it. That's what happens when you have a generally accepted system.

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

I'm going by your mischaracterization of opinions as absolutes, whether you call them facts, truths or whatever the next word may be.

I have no idea what your emotions are behind that, I'm simply discussing what those statements are / aren't.

How about this: It's a fact that there is a serious flaw in determining College footballs' National Champion.

Would you agree or disagree with this statement.

 

[OH10]

In these playoff scenarios - what does the regular season look like?

It will probably look pretty much the same. As long as a playoff doesn't balloon beyond 8 teams, it really doesn't add many more games.

Do we drop all cupcake games? How many non-conference games/year do you get?

I think, ideally, a playoff would allow teams to schedule more aggressively without the concern that a freshman mistake in the second game of the season will cost the team a shot at the national title.

And let's be realistic, no team should be eliminated losing their second game of the season. Yes, it lessens the relative importance of the game, but in the grand scheme of things Duke-OSU last week meant nothing - but we all enjoyed it just the same.

 

[smithlabs]

It will probably look pretty much the same. As long as a playoff doesn't balloon beyond 8 teams, it really doesn't add many more games.



I think, ideally, a playoff would allow teams to schedule more aggressively without the concern that a freshman mistake in the second game of the season will cost the team a shot at the national title.

And let's be realistic, no team should be eliminated losing their second game of the season. Yes, it lessens the relative importance of the game, but in the grand scheme of things Duke-OSU last week meant nothing - but we all enjoyed it just the same.

(3) 12 game regular season schedule
(3a) play 8 conference games (your division + 3 from rival division)
(3b) play 2 "equal level" non-conference games (1's vs 1's, 12's vs 12's)
(3c) play 1 "preseason game" against a non-D1 opponent
(3d) play 1 protected "rivalry game"