Coaching changes: coaches hired and fired, comings and goings

[Dryden]

Chryst has been a downgrade from the Wannstache at Pitt. So why not bring more mediocrity into the B1G?

No kidding. The two dominant football powers in the B1G West have replaced top 5 B1G coaches with bottom 5 coaches from the Pac 12 and ACC.

Pitt will now have to find it's 5th coach this decade since firing Wannstache in Dec 2010. In '08 they went 9-4, and in '09 they went 10-3 with the 3 losses by a combined 11 points. But Wanny underperformed in '10 so was shit-canned. Idiots.

 

[NFBuck]

Honestly, I think Pittsburgh is a tough place to be a football coach. You're recruiting against Penn State and a big portion of the Big Ten for local talent. While they get to play and practice in fantastic facilities (Heinz Field and the Pitt Medical Sports Complex), I've always been of the opinion that on-campus facilities trump any other option. While not extremely far away, both of these are more than a half hour walk from campus. It just has a much different feel from other universities where everything is centrally located.

This is true. Pitt is far from a football power. But a guy that defines "mediocre" like the Wannestache went 42-31 there. Also, ped aggy didn't really start recruiting well again until this year. Chryst was recruiting against the pedtards when they were still quite tarnished from the Sandusky stuff and had schollie restrictions. On top of that, they played in bad conferences, and Chryst still only went 19-19 (10-13), and he lost to YSU and Akron. A good coach should be able to do better than that. All that said, I think he'll keep you guys plugging along, running a familiar system, and get you 9 wins a year. However, I don't see him as the kind of guy that can get you to the next level. Maybe I'm wrong, but there's nothing indicating he will be anything over "more of the same." Like I said, this was an opportunity for Bucky and Corn to really "upgrade" the coaching in the conference, and they settled for the status quo.

 

[pnuts34]

eventually that will bite us in the ass...

We need other teams to step up... they dont have to be elite but they've gotta be better than the bed [Mark May]ters that they are now

Idk how it would when FSU is doing fine in an even worse conference. As long as we're undefeated I hardly ever see OSU getting passed up. There's a committee voting on the playoff, no computer . And a committee of people that know that it comes down to making mone . And the Buckeyes travel extremely well and have a very loyal fan base all over the country.
I'm fine with the conference being hot garbage, give the Buckeyes more conference title .

 

[Jaxbuck]

eventually that will bite us in the ass...

FSU and OSU this year....how much weaker can their conferences be? Still fielded half the playoff teams.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

this could go in the scum thread too but here we go

Tony Gerdeman @GerdOZone
So Michigan is going back to the well that brought them Brady Hoke and Dave Brandon? If at first you don't succeed, just keep failing.

Pat Forde
@YahooForde
RT @Travis_Waldron @YahooForde Hilariously, though, head of Korn Ferry Sports is guy who placed Brandon/Hoke at UM: kornferry.com/expertise/role…

Bruce Feldman @BruceFeldmanCFB
#Michigan announces that it has hired Korn Ferry to help with its coaching search, paying between $80,000-$250,000.

 

[NFBuck]

FSU and OSU this year....how much weaker can their conferences be? Still fielded half the playoff teams.

Yeah, I never worry about Ohio State getting in. We're a blue-blood program, and if we take care of business, we're in. I'd just like to see a step up in competition in the conference. If for nothing else than to get us ready for the playoffs. Winning games 59-0 feels great, but you're not exactly testing your mettle. We'll see how things go against bammer. If we play like we did last Saturday, we can beat anybody. But if we were to lose, you can bet we're going to hear about the lackluster B1G failing on the big stage again. Even if we're down to our 3rd QB.

 

[NFBuck]

this could go in the scum thread too but here we go

Tony Gerdeman @GerdOZone
So Michigan is going back to the well that brought them Brady Hoke and Dave Brandon? If at first you don't succeed, just keep failing.

Pat Forde
@YahooForde
RT @Travis_Waldron @YahooForde Hilariously, though, head of Korn Ferry Sports is guy who placed Brandon/Hoke at UM: kornferry.com/expertise/role…

Bruce Feldman @BruceFeldmanCFB
#Michigan announces that it has hired Korn Ferry to help with its coaching search, paying between $80,000-$250,000.

Their current AD is saying all the right things to the press, but I have my doubts about anybody associated with that circus having the ability to accomplish anything of note. Bringing in the same doofus that led to the Hoke hire just reaffirms that feeling.

 

[pnuts34]

FSU and OSU this year....how much weaker can their conferences be? Still fielded half the playoff teams.

The playoff committee wants to make money for everyone, and classic powers will almost always get the benefit of a doubt. I'm still surprised that OSU jumped both TCU and Baylor, but I'm not complaining.

 

[MaxBuck]

Their current AD is saying all the right things to the press, but I have my doubts about anybody associated with that circus having the ability to accomplish anything of note. Bringing in the same doofus that led to the Hoke hire just reaffirms that feeling.

Korn Ferry is probably the number one executive search firm in the world. Not sure it's fair to blame the Hoke hire entirely on them. But you gotta wonder why it took so long to hire them for this search.

 

[NFBuck]

Korn Ferry is probably the number one executive search firm in the world. Not sure it's fair to blame the Hoke hire entirely on them. But you gotta wonder why it took so long to hire them for this search.

I get the feeling it's Harbaugh related. I'm certain they've probably been pushing him from assurances that he will take the job, which he's refusing to do. And why would he? He's going to be the hottest name available in the NFL this offseason, and is possibly in line to become the highest paid football coach on the planet in the NFL. They're probably coming to the realization that Harbaugh isn't coming, and now have to seriously start looking at alternatives.

 

[NFBuck]

The playoff committee wants to make money for everyone, and classic powers will almost always get the benefit of a doubt. I'm still surprised that OSU jumped both TCU and Baylor, but I'm not complaining.

I'm not at all. tOSU was the most impressive team last weekend, and won an outright conference title. The Big 12 has no conference title game, Baylor already beat TCU, TCU was higher ranked going in, and won easily. How do you justify Baylor jumping TCU when they struggled, relatively speaking, last weekend when TCU won in a whitewash? Still, TCU's "marquee" win became less impressive when OU lost to Okie State. It was a perfect storm that worked out in our favor, and in the end, our resume was simply better.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

Korn Ferry is probably the number one executive search firm in the world. Not sure it's fair to blame the Hoke hire entirely on them. But you gotta wonder why it took so long to hire them for this search.

At least they are moving on from internal politics, the "Michigan Man", and Bo Schembechler.



Oh wait, never mind.

Korn Ferry's sports sector is managed by Jed Hughes. He received his doctorate from Michigan...and coached under Schembechler.

Jed Hughes is a former American footballcoach. Hughes worked as a graduate assistant for Stanford University football program from 1972 to 1973. In 1974, he joined Bo Schembechler's staff at the University of Michigan as a linebacker coach. He remained at Michigan for two seasons.

Also firmly entrenched into Michigan athletics.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JedHughesKF/status/453205276250738688

 

[pnuts34]

I'm not at all. tOSU was the most impressive team last weekend, and won an outright conference title. The Big 12 has no conference title game, Baylor already beat TCU, TCU was higher ranked going in, and won easily. How do you justify Baylor jumping TCU when they struggled, relatively speaking, last weekend when TCU won in a whitewash? Still, TCU's "marquee" win became less impressive when OU lost to Okie State. It was a perfect storm that worked out in their favor, and in the end, our resume was simply better.

That all sounds good, but TCU was still #3 and won easily and fell 2 spots! Thats craz . And shows that CFB wants as much money as possibl . OSU will earn far more than TCU

 

[NFBuck]

That all sounds good, but TCU was still #3 and won easily and fell 2 spots! Thats craz . And shows that CFB wants as much money as possibl . OSU will earn far more than TCU

TCU didn't win its own conference. Plus, like I said, their "best win" took a major hit when OU shit the bed against oOSU.

tOSU annihilated a Top-10 sparty on their home field, and then nuked a top-15 team in their conference championship game. OSU won 12 games, TCU 11. tOSU- conference champion. TCU- not conference champion. The committee did what they were supposed to do, they looked at resumes. A few members of the committee and many of the national press said they would have a problem with admitting a team that didn't even win its own conference.

If tOSU had won 17-16, then I'd be surprised. But a 59-0 clubbing of a respected team with one of the best defenses in the country put them over the top. Yes, TCU also won in a blowout, but it was against a rag doll. If the Big 12 wants to sit at the big boy table, they need to find a way to crown a true conference champion. The Horns and OU have to be looking at these results and be pretty unhappy with the state of their conference. If they ever get back to being powers, they're going to have issues getting in even if they are a blue blood program. Especially if they're in TCU or Baylor's position.

The lack of outrage from the national media just shows how poorly the Big 12 is thought of.

 

[Woody1968]

That all sounds good, but TCU was still #3 and won easily and fell 2 spots! Thats craz . And shows that CFB wants as much money as possibl . OSU will earn far more than TCU

TCU fell to #6, because they lost to Baylor, and didn't win their conference. Problem is, people want to treat the committee rankings like they treated the polls, and it is a completely different system. There really isn't any point in releasing the committee rankings before the end of the season.