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Cleveland Indians (2017 Official Thread of CHOKE)

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Good write-up on how they got so shitty...

http://waitingfornextyear.com/2017/09/just-how-did-the-indians-get-so-much-talent/

Interesting to note that the only contributors from the 2008-09 fire sale of Sabathia/Lee/V-Mart are Brantley and Carrasco, neither of whom were considered the centerpieces of those trades. In fact, Brantley was a PTBNL throw in.

Many other key ingredients were acquired in lower-profile trades:

  • Carlos Santana (Casey Blake trade in 2008)
  • Corey Kluber (Jake Westbrook trade in 2010)
  • Zach McAllister (Austin Kearns trade in 2010)
  • Trevor Bauer (Shin-Soo Choo trade in 2012)
  • Bryan Shaw (Shin-Soo Choo trade in 2012)
  • Mike Clevinger (Vinnie Pestano trade in 2014)
  • Abraham Almonte (Marc Rzepczynski trade in 2015)
When you realize that we got Kluber, arguably the best pitcher in MLB right now, and top-5 in Tribe history for Jake Westbrook (by then well past being even serviceable) and Clevinger for Vinnie freakin' Pestano (who was a solid bullpen arm for two years before falling off of a cliff)...that's really incredible.

A number of others are Tribe draft picks:

  • Tomlin, 19th Rd/2006
  • Chis, 1st Rd/2008
  • Perez, 33rd Rd/2008
  • Kip, 2nd Rd/2009
  • Lindor, 1st Rd/2011
  • Merritt, 16th Rd/2011
  • C. Allen, 23rd Rd/2011
  • Zimmer, 1st Rd/2014
And of course, a number of international signees:
  • Salazar, 2006
  • Gonzalez, 2008
  • Urshela, 2008
  • Ramirez, 2009
  • Mejia, 2012
  • Diaz, 2013
So, basically, this is a largely organic roster, with really one big FA (EE), and a couple of mid-season trade acquisitions (Miller/Bruce), a real rarity in today's game. The only other small-market WS team that had a largely home-grown core that I can think of would be KC in 2015. The Cubs core is built around a lot of homegrown talent, but they've supplemented a little more liberally with big ticket FAs like Heyward, Lester, Lackey and Fowler.








Still shitty.
 
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http://www.gammonsdaily.com/peter-gammons-bauer-yankee-pitching-doug-fister-and-more-al-storylines/

TREVOR BAUER AND THE INDIANS PATIENCE

One of Trevor Bauer’s longtime friends watched his exchange of words with Avisail Garcia on September 4 and said he knew then he was completely back to the state he was in as a UCLA junior and the best pitcher in college baseball, when in his final regular season start against California he got it into a similar verbal exchange with Cal’s Devon Rodriguez—who happened to be a high school teammate of Bauer.

Then, watching Bauer win his 9th straight Sunday night against the Orioles, a baseball executive wondered if after all these years Bauer might not be better than his UCLA mate Gerrit Cole.

For a guy that was drafted 3rd in the country in 2011, whom the Diamondbacks couldn’t wait to dump, who was 7-12 in his first three years and always was considered the eccentric tinkerer, the 26 year old Bauer is entering the elite zone. His preparation has changed. His arsenal has evolved to one of the game’s most devastating running 2-seamers—to both sides of the plate—as well as his curveball and whatever else fits his unique feel.

In his seventh pro season, this is all a tribute to patience. Terry Francona, especially, but pitching coach Mickey Callaway, the entire front office.

Patience, teaching, evaluating and Francona have made Cleveland the best pitching team.

Take Carlos Carrasco, who shut out the Tigers last night and has allowed one or no runs in six of his last seven starts. They got him in the Cliff Lee trade in 2009, and in August, 2014, when he was 11-19, did it click.

Take Corey Kluber. He was in his fourth season in the Padres system and was 37-49 when the Indians got him on a minor deal. He won his first major league game at 26 and is now one of the great pitchers in the game.

They got Mike Clevinger as a minor leaguer from the Angels for Vinnie Pestino, harnessed his athleticism and now is 9-5, 3.30 with 10.2 stikeouts per nine innings and ready for October.

The only member of the rotation they drafted was Josh Tomlin, and it took him five years of being labeled an organizational fellow before he made it in Cleveland.

Oh yes. Other than Bauer, not one of them showed up on a top 100 prospects list, and this afternoon that staff has the best strike zone command—measured by strikeout/walk ratio—of any staff in baseball history
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