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Cleveland Cavs (2016 NBA Champions)

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MrRedsBills said:
Chris HaynesVerified account‏@ChrisBHaynes
Cavs G/F Andrew Wiggins has not been made available to Wolves or anyone, multiple league sources tell @CSNNW. They're not budging right now.
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Like I said yesterday...Multiple sources very close to the Cavs have said they aren't including Wiggins in the deal.

Take everything with a grain of salt from Broussard and ESPN. They are still butthurt over LBJ going through SI

Wojnorarski from Yahoo is pretty good as well
 
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ethan said:
2) Wiggins is a 19 year old kid who has never played an NBA game, there is a chance he will never be an all-star.
Even in the summer league his ball handling looked very raw. He has potential to be great, but he also has potential to be average.
LeBron has proven he can put a championship team on his back. LeBron is the single best basketball player in the world right now.
He only has 5 years left of that level of greatness. Two of those years would be wasted waiting for Wiggins to develop.

3) IF Wiggins becomes an all-star what do you expect the Cavs to pay him? He will want max money.
Irving/Wiggins/Lebron would be just as capped out as Irving/Love/Lebron.

Love makes the team a contender right now, Wiggins might make the team a contender in 2/3 years.
Even having Love+Wiggins, only gives the Cavs a 4 year window until Wiggins wants max money...then they would have to trade him or Love.
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I'd argue that the difference between a great career for Wiggins and an average one is where he plays. If he plays under LeBron James and Coach Blatt in a system where he doesn't have to carry the team on his back, more than likely he'll be great. If he plays for the Timberwolves and the wonderfully inept Flip Saunders there's a good chance that he'll never develop a jump shot, a handle on the ball, or anything more than his freak athleticism running the floor and playing defense.

And a lot of things can happen in 4 years. LeBron may turn into an old man like Dwyane Wade did, Irving could have injury problems, there could be chemistry issues between players... It's way too early to speculate about contracts at this point. And Wiggins may be good enough at that point to replace either Irving or Love when the time comes.
 
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People concerned about LeBron declining rapidly like Wade may not realize that Wade has been pretty injury prone his entire career. Over 11 seasons, he has averaged 65 games played per season, meaning he has averaged 17 games missed per year. That makes Kyrie look like Cal Ripken. He never played on more than 79 and played in 70+ in only 5 of 11 years. He's had issues his entire career, so naturally he has hit the wall pretty hard. LeBron, on the other hand, has been pretty healthy his entire career.
 
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NFBuck said:
People concerned about LeBron declining rapidly like Wade may not realize that Wade has been pretty injury prone his entire career. Over 11 seasons, he has averaged 65 games played per season, meaning he has averaged 17 games missed per year. That makes Kyrie look like Cal Ripken. He never played on more than 79 and played in 70+ in only 5 of 11 years. He's had issues his entire career, so naturally he has hit the wall pretty hard. LeBron, on the other hand, has been pretty healthy his entire career.
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And LBJ has a fucking monster build...he likely could've been an All-American TE in college and maybe a Pro Bowl-level TE in the NFL. I could see him playing at his current level for 4-5 more years...the guy isn't even 30 yet.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
And LBJ has a fucking monster build...he likely could've been an All-American TE in college and maybe a Pro Bowl-level TE in the NFL. I could see him playing at his current level for 4-5 more years...the guy isn't even 30 yet.
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no doubt.

not sure on eligibility rules anymore, but if lebron wants to do the jordan and try another sport in 5 years, i would think he would still be enough of a dominant athlete to win a heisman trophy at OSU if he wanted to.
 
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BIATCHabutuka said:
not sure on eligibility rules anymore, but if lebron wants to do the jordan and try another sport in 5 years, i would think he would still be enough of a dominant athlete to win a heisman trophy at OSU if he wanted to.
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Pretty sure he'd be eligible to play college football. Obviously with his money he wouldn't need a scholie and thus be a walk-on. I'm pretty sure that UFM would take him as a walk-on even when LBJ is 35 years old. Holy shit, what a recruiting tool that'd be... :lol:
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
LeBron didn't like being hit on the gridiron... that's why he was outside and not a TE... he didn't go across the middle... ran down the sidelines
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i like to think that is just good thinking.

basketball was obviously his future, why risk it in football.

if he were to choose to play football, i think he would have no issues with contact after dominating the NBA for 15 years.

me, i would like to see him be a pass rush specialist. would love to see a big NFL lineman look small next to lebron and look slower than fuck.
 
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I'm really starting to lean towards hoping the Cavs stand pat and just start trying to gel with the athletes they have on the roster right now and get people learning their roles. I think this team is better than the teams Lebron lead to the playoffs before so they should do it again. They have more athleticism by far and if Wiggins and Bennett develop with Lebron's help, they could be special. They are certainly going to be exciting to watch this year. Miller and maybe one more shooter coming off the bench and the way some young guys are coming around, I think they have something going already.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Pretty sure he'd be eligible to play college football. Obviously with his money he wouldn't need a scholie and thus be a walk-on. I'm pretty sure that UFM would take him as a walk-on even when LBJ is 35 years old. Holy [Mark May], what a recruiting tool that'd be... :lol:
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First of all, talk about a random ass tangent going in here. But nonetheless, I thought once you sign an agent (assuming it doesn't matter if it's different sports) or if you have endorsements you can't play collegiate sports.
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
First of all, talk about a random ass tangent going in here. But nonetheless, I thought once you sign an agent (assuming it doesn't matter if it's different sports) or if you have endorsements you can't play collegiate sports.
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There have been several AAA baseball players who ended up being college football QBs (Joe Bauserman here, Chris Weinke at FSU off the top of my head)...I'd assume even in AAA baseball they had some sort of an agent (albeit a low-level one) to review the contract.
 
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