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Cleveland Cavs (2016 NBA Champions)

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NFBuck said:
In fairness, last year's draft was a steaming turd. Oladipo* might have been the best pick in that draft, and the Cavs already had Kyrie and Waiters. Where would he play? In fact, last year's draft was so bad, that Bennett might not have even been the worst pick. Otto Porter was even worse as the #3 pick. Maybe pick Noel, but he has built in injury history and didn't even play as a rookie."

*well, Michael Carter-Williams had a fine season, but he was never in the discussion to go #1...and, again, a PG.
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Exactly. I've seen so many comments tonight ripping last year's #1 pick. Who is better? I'd still take Bennett over Oladipo. Burke? No, not with Kyrie. McLemore - maybe, but he's not setting the world on fire yet. Nerlens could end up being good, but that's all speculation.

And like you said, there wasn't one team in the draft who was going to take Carter Williams in the Top 5, let alone at #1.
 
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As for this draft - what if the Cavs don't see a big difference between the Top 3 (presumably Wiggins/Parker/Embiid)? Does Philly trade you the #3 & #10 for the #1? Is the #10 worth it? I think there's a big drop off after #8, so I'm not thrilled with pick #10. I'm just glad we're not stuck with #9!
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
Kevin Love better than any prospect in this draft? Could be tempting. I'd probably just go with Wiggins and see if we can find a big man somewhere, or maybe sway Love in FA. Just have to keep healthy next year.
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I think I'd certainly take a shot at Love but don't go overboard with it. I'd offer #1 and Waiters. If they insist on more, then I'd want their #12 pick as well but only do either if Love agrees to sign long term. If these fall through, take Wiggins.

Peace
 
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I think I would rather have Parker or Embid than Wiggins honestly. Wiggins likely has the highest ceiling sure, and I'd say Parker is the safest and most NBA ready. Embid is like a combo of the two, pretty safe but also has a very high ceiling.

I am just concerned that Wiggins is too soft and passive. He doesn't strike me as someone who is good at taking contact. I honestly think the hype from his HS days still is helping his status be so high.

Honestly, I'd live with any of those 3.
 
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I think Embiid has all the potential in the world; but making a raw kid #1 when he already has back issues....well, that certainly has too much smoke around it for me to go with it.

I would have been happy with 3rd or so in hopes that Parker was there and if not Julius Randle would have been great; but we're at #1 and you're a mid-market team without a superstar I don't think there is much of a debate at Cavaliers HQ's....has to be Wiggins. A trio of Canadians, maybe they will relocate to Windsor...
 
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bigdog3300 said:
I think Embiid has all the potential in the world; but making a raw kid #1 when he already has back issues....well, that certainly has too much smoke around it for me to go with it.

I would have been happy with 3rd or so in hopes that Parker was there and if not Julius Randle would have been great; but we're at #1 and you're a mid-market team without a superstar I don't think there is much of a debate at Cavaliers HQ's....has to be Wiggins. A trio of Canadians, maybe they will relocate to Windsor...
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At least they won't bitch about the weather in Cleveland. Also, Philly has 3 and 10 in this draft, if they want Wiggins bad enough, maybe trade down.
 
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Damn our luck... this is freaking awesome. Cleveland may not win championships... but we kick ass in draft drama!

First things first... I only offer #1 for Love IF he signs an extension. Without the extension, NO WAY you can trade #1 for Love for one year.

Second... send Embiid to Cleveland Clinic and have them do a full body scan and find out the true nature of his back injury. HE has the highest ceiling in this draft. Bigtime athletic defensive centers are true gems. Plus he is still developing his offensive game and shows flashes of being good on offense to. The only issue is his back. So they better do a thourough medical exam on the kid.

Third... if Embiid doesn't check out on the medical exam, take Wiggins! He can be the true #1 on this team putting Kyrie in his right place as a great #2 on the team and Waiters a powerful 3rd option. Then you better find a coach that has a plan to blend those talents together.
 
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*OSUBucknut10* said:
I think I would rather have Parker or Embid than Wiggins honestly. Wiggins likely has the highest ceiling sure, and I'd say Parker is the safest and most NBA ready. Embid is like a combo of the two, pretty safe but also has a very high ceiling.

I am just concerned that Wiggins is too soft and passive. He doesn't strike me as someone who is good at taking contact. I honestly think the hype from his HS days still is helping his status be so high.

Honestly, I'd live with any of those 3.
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Embiid is far from a "safe" pick. Back issues and big men are a gigantic risk...especially when they're popping up after one year of college ball. Franchises like the Cavs cannot afford to play it "safe" if they want to get further than just making the playoffs. Wiggins has the most potential of anyone in this draft. And while he may be perceived as "soft", you have to remember he's 19 years old, and 6'8, around 200 lbs. His body has more growing to do. One of his top attributes is supposedly his work ethic and attitude. So it seems like he's the kind of kid you know will work his butt off to maximize that potential. Plus in a locker room where you already have a questionable attitude in Waiters and Irving, Wiggins would be a nice change.

Parker is a really solid player. And if the Cavs are happy getting a guy that is going to be "steady" but probably not "spectacular", he's probably the guy. But I'll say this-- after watching him against Mercer, I was not all that impressed. Great players take over games like that. He most certainly did not do that. Plus, he's questionable on defense. Another questionable defender is the last thing the Cavs need.
 
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I'm going to have to disagree, Embiid has the most potential, he can be a bigger version of Serge Ibakka. Defense, pick and roll offense, post up, and mid range are all in his realm of his ability going forward. The big question is the back, can you have confidence that it is ok and will be going forward? Wiggins has a ton of potential as well and honestly there is a million ways to go with this pick: trade it for an established player, maybe even move back with how many good options are available.
Not to mention who knows who on the current roster are possibly being looked at to be trade as well. It's early but my pick would be Embiid if he can get that back cleared. If not Wiggins would be a great pick as well but there are a ton of options to explore between now and the draft.
 
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bigdog3300 said:
I wouldn't mind trading with Phili if they were desperate for Wiggins and pick up the #3 and #10; then we can take Embiid or Parker, whoever falls to #3, and take the great McDermott at #10 :)
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Yeah, I could handle that, I like Stauskaus as well, this team desperately needs guys that can actually shoot the ball. Obviously, that would be if we had the 10.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
So your argument that the Cavs should take Embiid is that IF his back is OK, then he has the potential to be Serge Ibaka? :lol: That should convince anyone that Wiggins is the pick.
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My argument is that he has the highest potential of anyone in this draft contingent on his health being okay. He has the ability to erase mistakes or mental lapses by Kyrie and Dion. He can play pick and roll, has shown he is very light on his feet, he has shown good form on his mid range shots, and he has a 7-5 wingspan. That guy can be a complete game changer, his potential is above what Roy Hibbert is currently, and has just as much upside as Serge, but probably more since he is a larger human being.

Would I have any problem with them taking Wiggins? No, he has almost equal potential just at a different position. The difference is that Embiid could be a defensive game changer while still being able to develop and become a very good offensive player in this league at a position where it is very hard to find true game changers.
 
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