Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

[AKAK]

Every time it's the Browns' turn to pick, they simply need to draft the best player still available. With Richardson, they did that. With Weeden, they did not.

Actually in their view they did. He just happens to be 28.

 

[NFBuck]

No, because if he sucks, they'll move on... so, ain't gonna get to 33, either he's good or he's not. He's got 2 years to figure this out, Maximum. Just like Quinn, just like Colt, just like everyone else.

Just checked. The Browns have had exactly 2 guys start 100 games in their history. Otto Graham ain't one of them.

(Hell I say we take another QB in the 6th.)

Which is just as stupid as can be. They passed on two potential pro-bowl OL to not only fill a need, but provide insurance for your shiny new franchise RB.

Like I said, it's not just selecting the 29 year old QB, it's what they passed on to take him. I'm not nearly as irate if Reiff and DeCastro are already off the board. I'm not thrilled with any of the receivers left, so if they passed on them to take Weeden, I'm just "pissed" as opposed to "fffffffffuuuuuuu". But, they could have had a grand slam 1st round and instead fouled out.

I don't know why I expected any different. I won't be fooled again.

 

[buckiprof]

If you read between the lines, it's because Lerner wanted a quarterback, come hell or high water. Lerner wanted RGIII and I think the front office intentionally botched it b/c they didn't think he was the right guy. But, ultimately, Holmgren is being paid $10 million/year and he's not just going to give that up; if his owner demands something, he's doing it.

Heckert has shown a lot of draft savvy and this pick was too incomprehensibly stupid to believe he would have done it if not forced into it. They're all going to be defined by Brandon [censored]ing Weeden. Good luck assholes.

Which means nothing. Just because he is unhappy doesn't mean that he then dictated "draft Weeden at #22". And that also covers what Shurmur said.

Look at it this way. I believe everyone here believes that Holmgren is a man with a fairly large ego. A man with a fairly large ego will not stay in a place where the owner meddles to the level that some here are wanting to believe.

If on Monday morning Holmgren resigns, then (and only then) would I give any credence to the notion that Lerner meddled.

No lines to read between. I stand by my assertion about Holmgren's ego and not what some shoddy piece from ESPN says or Tony Grossi.

Holmgren doesn't need the $10 million. Men with large egos are not changed by something that they have no need for and Holmgren does not need the money.

Again, the only way this notion of "Weeden was Lerner's pick" has any viability is if the man with the really large ego resigns next week.

 

[AKAK]

Which is just as stupid as can be. They passed on two potential pro-bowl OL to not only fill a need, but provide insurance for your shiny new franchise RB.

Like I said, it's not just selecting the 29 year old QB, it's what they passed on to take him. I'm not nearly as irate if Reiff and DeCastro are already off the board. I'm not thrilled with any of the receivers left, so if they passed on them to take Weeden, I'm just "pissed" as opposed to "fffffffffuuuuuuu". But, they could have had a grand slam 1st round and instead fouled out.

I don't know why I expected any different. I won't be fooled again.

The irony here is... I've never seen a fanbase this pissed about taking a QB. Ever. Well, maybe not since Philly took McNabb.

So, the kid will probably be awesome.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

Can we fire the front office today, then host a poll for each of the Browns next picks? I mean it can't get any worse

 

[OHSportsFan]

Well, that picked sucked.

But this thread provided an incredible amount of comic relief. Well done, all around.

 

[NFBuck]

The irony here is... I've never seen a fanbase this [censored]ed about taking a QB. Ever. Well, maybe not since Philly took McNabb.

So, the kid will probably be awesome.

May not have been the clowns fanbase as a whole, but we were pretty pissed about the Quinn pick here...kingrhabuf, not withstanding. Nailed that one.

 

[billmac91]

May not have been the clowns fanbase as a whole, but we were pretty [censored]ed about the Quinn pick here...kingrhabuf, not withstanding. Nailed that one.

Another good point. I'm tired of reading (not just here) about how "all the fans were wrong about Quinn, so maybe they'll be wrong about Weeden".

I don't know a single Browns fan that thought Quinn would be good...unless they were a Notre Dame homer.

This franchise is a laughing-stock.

 

[BigWoof31]

I am currently tuned into 92.3 Cleveland Sports radio to see if the callers are as [censored]ed as everyone on these boards.

If one of you guys calls and and gives a shout out to BigWoof, I'll lose my mind and donate $5 to BP.

 

[NFBuck]

I am currently tuned into 92.3 Cleveland Sports radio to see if the callers are as [censored]ed as everyone on these boards.

If one of you guys calls and and gives a shout out to BigWoof, I'll lose my mind and donate $5 to BP.

I'll try to work it in if they don't hang up on my "baba booey! baba booey!"...

 

[y0yoyoin]

I'll try to work it in if they don't hang up on my "baba booey! baba booey!"...

now this would make my day

 

[tsteele316]

Another good point. I'm tired of reading (not just here) about how "all the fans were wrong about Quinn, so maybe they'll be wrong about Weeden".

I don't know a single Browns fan that thought Quinn would be good...unless they were a Notre Dame homer.

This franchise is a laughing-stock.

then you never looked very hard, or never outside this board. this is the same fanbase that thought they struck gold getting charlie frye where they did.

 

[NFBuck]

then you never looked very hard, or never outside this board. this is the same fanbase that thought they struck gold getting charlie frye where they did.

...and Colt McCoy. But, there's a large difference between celebrating a potential "steal" in the 3rd round, and spending a 1st rounder (and in BQ's case, trading an additional 1st & 2nd), on a questionable selection.

 

[BigWoof31]

Two Calls so far - both were electric.


1. Black guy calls in and is really pissed that they traded up and didn't consider getting RGIII. Calls the hosts "Kiley and Booms" suckers and not true fans. They get pissed and dump him

2. Earlier guy calls in and asks them if they are looking to build around a new quarterback and didn't think Colt has a future, why didn't they take a good, hard look at Terrell Pryor last year.


Some awesome calls so far.

 

[AKAK]

May not have been the clowns fanbase as a whole, but we were pretty pissed about the Quinn pick here...kingrhabuf, not withstanding. Nailed that one.

I dont' think we were this pissed. And, if we were, I think it's more because we gave up the following year's #1 to get him. Here we have the opposite situation, where we're using an "extra" to take Hashishen.

Now, having said that. I had so little confidence in that regime that I promised myself that as long as the took Joe Thomas at #3 and didn't fuck that up, I wouldn't get pissed.

I kind of went in this year with the same feeling, as long as they didn't over think it and took Claiborne or Richardson (and to some degree Blackmon) I was going to be okay. While some overthinking did occurr... they got Richardson anyway.

Having said that with Rieff, DeCastro, etc on the board, I was gonna be good with one of those. Of course, after QB, OL's are pretty hard to project. So, maybe future Pro Bowlers, maybe not, who the fuck knows.

Having said that, the fear that year of actually drafting Quinn at #3 didn't happen (though you can argue that giving up the pick the next year for him was worse) and the fear (you never thought they'd do it after the fact, right?) of taking Tannehill at #4, and those things not happening does make me feel somewhat better.

Having said all that, they apparently like McCoy that little. And to NJ's point in Cleveland you need a QB with a gun. I don't like that line of thinking but, it sure helps. You also need to run the ball. These things were addressed.

Of course this is part of the problem with the 3 day draft, had we gone through 3 rounds yesterday, things might look much different today.

In the end, Draft picks are "chances" to improve your team. This was obviously quite a bit more high risk than some folks would like but, if they needed a QB and the top 2 were out of reach. (Face it, nothing would have gotten them Luck... and Think what the Redskins gave up for RGIII, who is still a risk... what conference does he play in?) They got what they felt like was the 3rd best QB and used the Falcons pick on him. Not the end of the world.