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tsteele316
Mr. Such and Such
Big Papa;2236659; said:
people were saying the same things about cam newton last year, and newton didn't sustain a concussion 5 games into his career. that trade may set the redskins back a very long time if RG3 isn't a world beater. they have no cap room, no draft picks, and are losing a few key players.
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tsteele316
Mr. Such and Such
Big Papa;2236642; said:
this is correct, cleveland should only look to get guys from teams that won a superbowl. maybe they could pluck someone off the belichek tree. maybe someone like charlie weis, romeo crennel, josh mcdaniels, or scott pioli.
well, maybe cleveland should pluck from the ratbirds nest. maybe someone like phil savage, george kokinis, or marvin lewis.
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Big Papa;2236663; said:
At this point, I'd dance a jig to go 9-7 and play in a wildcard game.
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Big Papa;2236659; said:
that's great, but what about their depth? their cap room? How about if they sustain an injury to RGIII that takes longer than a week for a concussion?
Kirk Cousins didn't look too horrific, but he's not RGIII. Nor does RGIII play defense, or offensive line, or running back or receiver.
The Redskins bought the farm with RGIII, and they also had fewer holes to fill than the Browns did. I don't think the Browns necessarily had to trade up to get Richardson but I'd do what they did compared to what the Redskins did 10 times out of 10.
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Big Papa;2236686; said:
The point is, because of the trade, they do not have a 1st rounder until 2015. On top of that, with their cap issues, they're not going to be able to improve the roster thru FA.
Given all of that, RG3 may feel the need to take it all on himself and take a savage beating himself. It's not an enviable position.
Does it make them more fun to watch? Absolutely. A championship contender in the next few years? Very unlikely.
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Big Papa;2236686; said:
3-3 on a team that has the holes like the Browns do would be fool's gold at best and to be honest, I don't think they are any better than 2-4 right now with RGIII anyway.
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...and to be clear, I am in no way putting down RG3. He looks like an exceptional player. But, that trade was still crazy, and I'm glad the clowns didn't go full retard.
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tsteele316
Mr. Such and Such
Big Papa;2236671; said:
my sarcastic rant shows that picking from what you define as a "winner" is no more likely to yield any success, which is the crux of your argument.
just so i understand, cleveland should choose from what you consider a winner, even though your definition of a winner has yielded a laundry list of failures both in cleveland and elsewhere over the last 5 years.
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Big Papa;2236663; said:
Well I consider Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, and Bernie Kosar "winners". In any playoff format, the goal is to have a team that can get there (almost) every year. After that, it's one and done, so you take your chances. I know Cleveland fans would love to have NE's record over the past 10 years, even if they had won no Super Bowls. They are always relevant, always competitive, and always a pain in the ass to play. I'd take that any day at this point.
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Big Papa
Urban!!!!
NFBuck;2236736; said:
But the Browns also had more to offer, they had two firsts this year to bargain with and the Skins did not. Last I heard if the Browns had offered both firsts this past draft, their second rounder and the following year's #1 they could have gotten RG3. I make that deal.
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