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hatehineygate
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I am not happy with this draft at all. This was supposed to be thee draft, 12 picks going in, very deep and anything less than an A would not be considered a success.....to me at least.
-Browns had five picks in the first 3 rounds, came out with 3 starters in my book, maybe four, but considering the number of total picks the Browns had that is not enough.
-Reached for Ward and jumped the gun for Hardesty, after that the Browns couldnt catch back up. I am looking at a few guys like Norwood and Wootton that went later and could have easily been drafted by the Browns had they not traded up to the second. Second round was very puzzeling, with the 32nd passing game and the need for a real #1 I thought Benn and Tate falling would have been a no brainer.
-A lot of injury or inconsistent guys. They at least brought in some physical guys, but that is about the only positive here.
-I think it was clear no one was willing to trade up to 7, so I cant complain about the Haden pick. Would have loved to have gone in another direction, but if you dont have any other options, okay I guess. The interesting thing was that they were down to the wire with Kyle Wilson and Haden, Wilson didnt go till much later......
-Browns had five picks in the first 3 rounds, came out with 3 starters in my book, maybe four, but considering the number of total picks the Browns had that is not enough.
-Reached for Ward and jumped the gun for Hardesty, after that the Browns couldnt catch back up. I am looking at a few guys like Norwood and Wootton that went later and could have easily been drafted by the Browns had they not traded up to the second. Second round was very puzzeling, with the 32nd passing game and the need for a real #1 I thought Benn and Tate falling would have been a no brainer.
-A lot of injury or inconsistent guys. They at least brought in some physical guys, but that is about the only positive here.
-I think it was clear no one was willing to trade up to 7, so I cant complain about the Haden pick. Would have loved to have gone in another direction, but if you dont have any other options, okay I guess. The interesting thing was that they were down to the wire with Kyle Wilson and Haden, Wilson didnt go till much later......
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BrutusBobcat
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The main weakness of this draft was trading up to get Hardesty, IMO. Yes, Ward was a reach, but I am not scandalized by a reach so much as it's a matter of evaluation/opinion. All you need is one other team that's evaluated and needs that guy, and is willing to pick him before your third round pick, and he's gone. Trading up bothers me much more, because you're losing picks and not absolutely filling an area of need. Players were available with those picks who could have been useful. I'm placated a bit by the fact that at least the Browns didn't trade up into an even higher round, and Hardesty wasn't a horrible pick -- it just wasn't a great move of front office genius.
Agreed on the points about Haden at 7. No one wanted to trade into that slot, and once Berry was gone, that was pretty much the only pick you could make that meets high priority needs. Due to the risk/reward nature of top 10 picks, I'm not sure any team wants to be up there -- it seems more punitive than anything. You end up spending way too much on an unproven commodity. I'd much rather see a team spend that cash on a blockbuster free agent signing who you already know will make a difference.
I'm really torn on the McCoy pick. I like the kid a lot and want to see him succeed, plus I think that he did fall to a point in the draft where he's a great value. There's nothing wrong with any of that, and if he doesn't pan out, it's no disaster. I'm just not quite buying the QB of the future moniker being placed on him in some quarters, and I'm concerned that the Browns might skip drafting a QB entirely next year as a result. I'd kind of figured this draft as being primarily defense and filling glaring holes with an eye on next year's first round as when they'd pick up that franchise QB. Still, I'll be happily wrong if he pans out to be that guy.
Agreed on the points about Haden at 7. No one wanted to trade into that slot, and once Berry was gone, that was pretty much the only pick you could make that meets high priority needs. Due to the risk/reward nature of top 10 picks, I'm not sure any team wants to be up there -- it seems more punitive than anything. You end up spending way too much on an unproven commodity. I'd much rather see a team spend that cash on a blockbuster free agent signing who you already know will make a difference.
I'm really torn on the McCoy pick. I like the kid a lot and want to see him succeed, plus I think that he did fall to a point in the draft where he's a great value. There's nothing wrong with any of that, and if he doesn't pan out, it's no disaster. I'm just not quite buying the QB of the future moniker being placed on him in some quarters, and I'm concerned that the Browns might skip drafting a QB entirely next year as a result. I'd kind of figured this draft as being primarily defense and filling glaring holes with an eye on next year's first round as when they'd pick up that franchise QB. Still, I'll be happily wrong if he pans out to be that guy.
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tsteele316;1697459; said:
...and is apparently a giant headache. If he couldn't handle Belichick, I doubt he'd fare much better playing for Mangini. Pass.
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BrutusBobcat;1697546; said:
Actually I totally understood the Hardesty move. Approaching the 3rd round you see Gerhart, Tate & Hardesty on the board and you feel safe that you should get one of them. Then all of the sudden Gerhart & Tate get snapped up and you look at your board and you see Hardesty as the only remaining RB that you would even draft (actually there was a huge drop off til the next RB came off the board). Hardesty was considered the next best RB after Tate, and some people liked him better than Tate. So I have no problem there. Now, I could have an issue on what they traded to get him, but in the end, they were just 5th rounders.
Regarding Colt McCoy. The beauty of getting him in the middle of round 3 is that you don't have that much invested in him. SO why would it prevent you from grabbing a QB next year in the draft? I am sure Holmgren/Mangini will be able to evaluate McCoy during fall camp and the season as the scout QB. If you like what you see, then maybe it downgrades where you would pick a QB next year. If you don't like what you see, there is no reason you can't pick a Mallet or Luck (just say no to Locker)
Speaking of next year's draft and on a totally different note... the reason you didn't need to pick a Dez Bryant type WR this year is because of the 1st round WRs in next years draft. With Green, Jones, Floyd & Baldwin,
those are 4 WRs that I would consider BETTER than Dez Bryant.
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hatehineygate
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Dont know if I like the idea of drafting a QB every year. Spending a 3rd rounder or whatever on the same osition every year until one hits doesnt sound like the way to win. I know Holmgren likes doing that, but with so many holes to fill it makes no sense.
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hatehineygate
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BayBuck;1698128; said:
I dont really care where they come from, I would hope we went after someone that ran a pro style offense. I just look at next years class and it is worse than this class was. Aside from Mallett who is out there? Locker had a worse completion % than Juice Williams and TP and he is somehow the #1-2 guy. Everyone runs the spread so the Browns will have to keep looking at spread QBs that run simple offenses and dont have strong arms.
At some point they will have to take a shot at someone that has all the tools, continuing to blow 3rd rounders on QBs isnt the answer. But, then again this is the Browns and staying in the 5 years away and building routine is what they do.
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Bleed S & G
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All I have to say is...hatehineygate;1698130; said:
No Jimmy!
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hatehineygate
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why is everyone so happy about not getting Clausen? I saw where everyone was happy he fell to the second round and the Browns didnt get him.
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ulukinatme
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Piney;1698109; said:Speaking of next year's draft and on a totally different note... the reason you didn't need to pick a Dez Bryant type WR this year is because of the 1st round WRs in next years draft. With Green, Jones, Floyd & Baldwin,
Floyd will be a Junior this year, and according to my inside source he should be there all 4 years
I agree on the others though
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