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Cleveland Browns (2010 season)

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The two things that really stand out to me.

1) Demarco Murray. He's really come back strong & healthy at OU. I think Hillis and him could be an awesome combination. Especially considering Murray's pass catching abilities.

2) Boren. Love it. We'd finally be able to be able to run to the right side of our line with an improved G/T.


Tejay Johnson is an interesting thought.

I wouldn't mind seeing Drake Nevis. I don't think he's a franchise DT. But he could be very solid in a rotation.
 
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LitlBuck;1867023; said:
So you are telling me that Brady draws out the game plan during the week and also practices with the first-team while he is drawing up the game plan.
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I think you're taking it a bit literal. However it wouldn't surprise me in the least to find that Brady has a hand in the game plan. You can't get a better scouting report then an intelligent QB.

However with how many checks and audibles Tom can make at the line, he damn well calls is own plays as-is. Same with Peyton.

But yeah, I agree.
 
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So, I was browsing through DB prospects for the draft.

Came across a very, very familiar name.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70992&draftyear=2012&genpos=CB


Mini... Minnie. Kid's a baller too. He's going back to UVA for his senior season. But how awesome would it be to draft Matthews this year then this kid next year?

Now, as a bit of a youngin', I realize my memories aren't to clear of Frank. However I did come into around his Pro-Bowl runs and the tail end of his career in Cleveland. So - its not like I'm unaware of the history :biggrin:

- that's for some of you old timers.
 
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/02/cleveland_browns_qb_colt_mccoy_3.html
Cleveland Browns' QB Colt McCoy already learning Pat Shurmur's offense

DALLAS -- These are exciting times for Colt McCoy. Making the rounds the past couple of days at Super Bowl XLV headquarters, a 21/2-hour drive east of his hometown of Tuscola, Texas, McCoy has felt the energy of the ultimate destination he hopes to some day take the Browns.
At the same time, the quarterback has begun to immerse himself in the new offense that new coach Pat Shurmur is planning. McCoy said he has had numerous telephone conversations with Shurmur and Browns President Mike Holmgren and is excited about what lies ahead for him and the team.
"My whole mentality will be so much different next year. I can't wait," McCoy said after a long day of national radio interviews and meetings with marketers and sponsors.
"I talk to the coaches regularly. I'm already learning some things over the phone. It's been a real busy month for coach Shurmur trying to hire a staff. I think with coach [Mark] Whipple on board now, things will pick up."
While many have cast skeptical eyes on Shurmur's plan to call his own plays in his first year as a head coach at any level, McCoy views it as "pretty cool." He does not have a strong opinion about Shurmur's non-stated decision to not name an offensive coordinator.
"I really don't know what to say about that," McCoy said. "I know coach Shurmur is very brilliant. The time we've spent together, he's told me he's expecting great things for me. He said we're going to grow together and learn together.
"He's gonna be calling the plays. That's unique. At the same time, I think it's pretty cool that the head coach is calling the plays. He's a young guy, with a lot of energy. You can just hear it in his voice. I think it'll be different than last year. Coach [Eric] Mangini was defensive-minded. He did a good job."
McCoy has gleaned the basics of Shurmur's West Coast offensive system from discussions with Shurmur and Rams quarterback Sam Bradford, McCoy's top rival in college who has become a friend and confidante. Bradford won seven games as a rookie starter with the Rams with Shurmur tutoring him as the team's coordinator.
"It's a West Coast system," McCoy said. "I think it's a system, from my experience, that we ran a little bit of in college. It's a very quarterback-friendly system. That's what coach Shurmur keeps reiterating to me. He says we're gonna learn it together and be the best together. I think it's real quick, timing, get the ball out of your hands, make good decisions, and it also takes advantage of my ability to make plays with my feet.
"Sam loves coach Shurmur. Was sad to see him go. He's real excited for me."
McCoy also has seen Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers develop into an elite quarterback in a version of the same offense run by Packers coach Mike McCarthy.
"He's been in the system five years and now he's playing awesome and they're in a Super Bowl," McCoy said. "I know there's going to be a huge learning curve. But I think the skills that God gave me fit perfect for this kind of system."
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/02/cleveland_browns_cornerback_jo.html

Cleveland Browns cornerback Joe Haden waits to hear what coach Pat Shurmur has to say: Super Bowl Insider


DALLAS ? Like most of his teammates, Browns cornerback Joe Haden viewed the team's coaching changes from the outside looking in. There hasn't been a lot of communication from the club as new coach Pat Shurmur has hunkered down to assemble his coaching staff.
"I don't honestly know the whole thing that's going on right now," Haden said along broadcast row in the Super Bowl Media Center. "The only coach I've talked to was [secondary] coach [Jerome] Henderson. He just said, 'I'm still here.' As long as we have my boy Henderson, we're going to be good."
Henderson is the only defensive coach Shurmur is known to have retained. Dick Jauron replaced Rob Ryan as coordinator, Dwaine Board replaced Bryan Cox as defensive line coach and Billy Davis replaced linebackers coach Matt Eberflus.
Haden doesn't expect the transition to a four-man front defensive system to affect himself much at cornerback and isn't worried about the change in schemes. But he was taken aback by the firing of head coach Eric Mangini and Ryan.

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"It's crazy. That's what it is, definitely a business," Haden said. "It's your job now.
"We're not going backwards. We have too many talented players to go backwards. The way we ended the season, with that feeling of getting smashed [41-9 by Pittsburgh], we want to come back. I know the team's hungry. I was with [Josh] Cribbs yesterday. He's hungry to start again, hungry to get wins. We're too talented to lose. The thing is, we need to start having that . . . if it's close at the end . . . the feeling that we're going to win."
Haden said team President Mike Holmgren delivered a message during a team meeting the day Mangini was fired that left everyone encouraged.
"I know coach Holmgren, he would never do anything . . . all he wants to do is win," Haden said. "He had a meeting with us before we left. And he said, 'We're going to start winning around here. I didn't take over this program for us to lose. Everywhere I go, I always win.' Everybody was behind him."
Haden made the rounds Thursday as one of the five finalists for the 2010 Pepsi Rookie of the Year Award. The winner was Detroit defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh.
Haden said he anticipated taking about six weeks off after his rookie season before returning to Cleveland. He said he's been working out with family members in Maryland.
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holmgren doesnt take any shit...and i should add im glad Royal and St. Clair are also on their way out...any reports of Jauron possibly re-igniting Rogers flame to play wont be happening...its clear the browns will be taking a WR/DL in the draft or i see us trading down

Browns released DL Shaun Rogers.
Zac Jackson of FOX Sports Ohio reports that the Browns have also cut RT John St. Clair, LB Eric Barton, TE Robert Royal, and LB David Bowens
Combined, their 2011 salaries would've added up to $13.84 million. Rogers managed just two sacks in 2010 while seeing a major decline in playing time. He was due a $5.5 million salary as well as a $500K roster bonus. Rogers turns 32 in March, and it's unclear if he has enough left in the tank to help elsewhere.
Source: Zac Jackson on Twitter
2/9/2011 5:32:00 PM
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This draft is going to be huge for the Browns....

They have to get it right..

I read that Coleman was cut too and in all, including bonuses, this saves the Browns upwards of 19 million....

We will definitely be going DL in the draft, imo. I'm very glad about that. Too bad we can't redraft Suh lol. But we need a dominant pass rusher.
 
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KingLeon;1871669; said:
This draft is going to be huge for the Browns....

They have to get it right..

I read that Coleman was cut too and in all, including bonuses, this saves the Browns upwards of 19 million....

We will definitely be going DL in the draft, imo. I'm very glad about that. Too bad we can't redraft Suh lol. But we need a dominant pass rusher.
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I wouldn't say anything about this upcoming draft is a "definite"....
 
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/02/cleveland_browns_terminate_six.html

Cleveland Browns release six players, including Shaun Rogers, David Bowens, Eric Barton and Kenyon Coleman

Published: Wednesday, February 09, 2011, 6:14 PM Updated: Wednesday, February 09, 2011, 11:14 PM

By Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns' housecleaning under new coach Pat Shurmur began Wednesday when the team cut six players, including three-time Pro Bowl nose tackle Shaun Rogers and three of Eric Mangini's former Jets.
In addition to Rogers, the contracts of linebackers Eric Barton and David Bowens, defensive end Kenyon Coleman, right tackle John St. Clair and tight end Robert Royal were terminated. All six were over 30 and Barton, Bowens, and Coleman all played for Mangini in New York.
Rogers' departure comes as no big surprise, considering he started only one game in 2010 and never fully embraced the Mangini way. Rogers, who played under new Browns defensive coordinator Dick Jauron in Detroit, was set to make $5.5 million in 2011 and receive another $500,000 in bonuses.
"Appreciate all the kind words and support," Rogers said on Twitter Wednesday night, "but I guess the odyssey that I call my career pushes on to its next adventure...Thx cleveland for accepting the big fella for better or worse."
Rogers, 31, underwent ankle surgery after the 2009 season and was never fully healthy in 2010. He began training camp on the physically unable to perform list and practiced sparingly all season. He was plagued by hip and ankle injuries and played in fewer than 40 percent of the snaps.
Former defensive coordinator Rob Ryan always spoke highly of Rogers, praising him for playing injured. But his 17 tackles were a career low, as were his two sacks. He did block a field goal in Miami, the 14th of his career.
Rogers, an 11th-year pro, was acquired by former GM Phil Savage in a trade with the Lions in 2008 for cornerback Leigh Bodden and the Browns' third-round pick that year. Savage immediately signed Rogers to a six-year, $42 million deal, with $20 million guaranteed. Rogers made $23 million in his three seasons here.
Rogers had a stellar year in 2008, making 81 tackles and 4 1/2 sacks to earn his third trip to the Pro Bowl. But his rejuvenation was derailed when Mangini took over for Romeo Crennel after the season.
Rogers felt that Mangini snubbed him on two occasions, in the weight room and at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards ceremony, and told his agent that he wanted out of Cleveland. The Browns refused to let him go, paying him his $6 million roster bonus instead. But Rogers, who was constantly double-teamed, never fully bought into the Mangini program and seemed to be biding his time. In 2009, he made 36 tackles, two sacks and defended one pass. He also blocked a field goal and two extra points.
Perhaps his biggest contribution the past two seasons was helping to develop his successor, Ahtyba Rubin. Some, including Rogers, felt Rubin deserved to make the Pro Bowl this season.
Rogers spent two seasons under Jauron in Detroit, where Jauron was coordinator in 2004-05 and interim head coach the final five games of 2005. Under Jauron, Rogers earned his first two Pro Bowl selections.
Coleman, 31, was acquired by the Mangini in the 2009 draft-day trade that enabled the Jets to select quarterback Mark Sanchez. The Browns also acquired safety Abe Elam and quarterback Brett Ratliff in the deal.
Coleman, a 10th year pro, started 27 games at left end over two seasons, producing 68 tackles, 2.5 sacks and three forced fumbles in 2010. Jauron is switching from a 3-4 front to a 4-3.
Bowens and Barton, both 33 and 13-year pros, were signed by Mangini as unrestricted free agents in 2009 to help implement his scheme and his methods. Bowens' biggest contribution came at the end of the 2009 season, when he moved inside because of injuries. Over the last eight games, he made 38 tackles, five sacks a forced fumble and an interception. But he was on the bubble during the final cuts of 2010 camp and was inactive for the opener, breaking a string of 100 straight games played.
Barton, who underwent neck surgery in the off-season, started 12 games in 2010, making 66 tackles with one forced fumble and one pass defensed.
Royal, 31, was signed in March of 2009. He started four games in 2010, catching five passes for 56 yards and a TD. One of the team's funniest players, he kept things light in the locker room and on the field.
St. Clair, 33, was also signed in March 2009 as a free agent. He was plagued by a high ankle sprain, but started 10 games at right tackle in place of Tony Pashos, who went on injured reserve with an ankle injury of his own.
The cuts signal a move to a younger roster. The Browns finished the season with 15 players 30 or older and were the third-oldest team in the NFL.
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i have to wonder how many of these guys would of been cut under Mangini if he was still around...especially Barton, Bowens and Coleman...i like the move by heckert and staff and think this is definitely a move in the right directions...if we are switching to 4-3 we are going to need new personnel and players under 40 on the defensive line...if this CBA ever gets done i think we will be making a bunch of moves to sure up the defensive front thru free agency as i think we are still going to draft AJ Green in the first round of the draft if he is available
 
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tsteele316;1871905; said:
why?
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yah with the 6th pick i think the browns will do one of 3 possible things, 2 being pretty much for sure

1. draft AJ Green if he is still there
2. if Green is not there draft Dareus, Quinn, Miller or Bowers
3. if we dont like the above 4 then we try and trade down
 
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