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Cleveland Browns (2010 season)

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y0yoyoin;1825804; said:
colt mccoy has looked good so far as well...and thats why i think we should get a WR...Hillis is the future...you cannot call hardesty a bust when he has been injured and hasn't even played one snap in the NFL yet...our defense has been built for the most part thru trades and free agency...i like our defense and we do need more help in alot of different areas but i think for Colt to get better he needs more weapons...every great QB has a great receiver to throw too....guarantee next pick the Rams make will be at WR...browns are a handful of teams in the NFL without a proven WR (oakland, st louis, seattle) so depending on our pick position, Green or Jones could even be gone by the time we draft....if i had to take something other then a WR for the browns in the first round i would hope we take a DT that can play in the 3-4 or whatever hybrid scheme ryan comes up with at the time
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And he may not, he could be KiJana Carter V2.0...we'll just have to wait and see. I hope he comes back, but how many knee procedures can a RB recover from and still be an effective back?

And I would say there are a lot more teams than the 4 you list that don't have true #1 WRs. Chicago doesn't have one. SF doesn't have one until and unless Crabtree gets his act together. The Jets? Santonio is clutch, but is he a true #1? Buffalo? Tennessee? San Diego? Denver?

Now looking at some teams that do have one: Carolina, 1-10. Arizona, 3-8. Dallas, 3-8. Detroit, 2-9. Hell the Bungles have 2, and they are 2-9. Now there are a lot of problems on all of those teams that WRs can't solve, so my point is simply that with a team rising from the ashes of Jokeville like the Browns are trying to do, I think we can add a solid FA and not overpay for a WR that may or may not produce at the expense of other significant team needs, of which the secondary, DL, and right side of the OL remain paramount.
 
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Bucklion;1825864; said:
And he may not, he could be KiJana Carter V2.0...we'll just have to wait and see. I hope he comes back, but how many knee procedures can a RB recover from and still be an effective back?

And I would say there are a lot more teams than the 4 you list that don't have true #1 WRs. Chicago doesn't have one. SF doesn't have one until and unless Crabtree gets his act together. The Jets? Santonio is clutch, but is he a true #1? Buffalo? Tennessee? San Diego? Denver?

Now looking at some teams that do have one: Carolina, 1-10. Arizona, 3-8. Dallas, 3-8. Detroit, 2-9. Hell the Bungles have 2, and they are 2-9. Now there are a lot of problems on all of those teams that WRs can't solve, so my point is simply that with a team rising from the ashes of Jokeville like the Browns are trying to do, I think we can add a solid FA and not overpay for a WR that may or may not produce at the expense of other significant team needs, of which the secondary, DL, and right side of the OL remain paramount.
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You mentioned Chicago, they have a WR who in MHO would be perfect for the Browns.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9404
 
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y0yoyoin;1825804; said:
...and if i had to take something other then a WR for the browns in the first round i would hope we take a DT that can play in the 3-4 or whatever hybrid scheme ryan comes up with at the time
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We could have had that a couple of years ago in Haloti Ngata but DOH, we swapped picks with a division rival and got Kam Wimbley who ain't even on the team anymore. Think I'm bitter??
 
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BuckNut65;1825917; said:
We could have had that a couple of years ago in Haloti Ngata but DOH, we swapped picks with a division rival and got Kam Wimbley who ain't even on the team anymore. Think I'm bitter??
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but wait, cleveland used that pick to get their future NG, Babatunde Oshinowo, thereby eliminating the need for Ngata.

seriously, of all the phil savage draft blunders, this ranks up there pretty high, which is no small feat.
 
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BuckNut65;1825917; said:
We could have had that a couple of years ago in Haloti Ngata but DOH, we swapped picks with a division rival and got Kam Wimbley who ain't even on the team anymore. Think I'm bitter??
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haha im with ya man...we could sit here and play the "we could off drafted so and so but we took..." game but id rather not
 
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exhawg;1825988; said:
The current draft picks seem much better than the Savage picks. Savage seemed to try to swing for the fences with every pick and struck out most of the time.
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i remember he had the biggest hard on for Jemarcus Russell...thank god he didnt kill the entire franchise with what he would of given up for that turd
 
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y0yoyoin;1825992; said:
i remember he had the biggest hard on for Jemarcus Russell...thank god he didnt kill the entire franchise with what he would of given up for that turd
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cleveland's just lucky al davis' viagra hard on for russell was much bigger. hard to believe savage offered tons of picks to move up to #1 overall to get that clown.
 
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haden had a hell of a game and is having a hell of a season...i love this kid...im really glad we took him at #7...looking at Eric Berry and Earl Thomas's numbers you really couldnt have went wrong with whoever you took at #7 between the 3 even tho thomas and berry are safety's...but i really really like TJ Ward alot so im very happy we went Haden first and then TJ ward next...and thank god we did because eric wright has played like he has been on ecstacy the entire year
 
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AJ Green or Julio is a must, We won't be the Colts either way?? Well no duh but we need somebody who is reliable and someone who can make plays. We need help other places but you have to trust in your ability to evaluate talent. You can't just not draft a receiver because it hasn't worked out for a few other people.

We can't just wait til the second round and hope that we hit on a receiver and say if we don't then oh it doesn't matter. We need to believe in Heckert (I do) and take the risk of drafting a WR. Not that it matters what anyone on here thinks because I think he's going to take a receiver anyways, in my opinion. AJ Green is a guy that I think is as close to a homerun as you can be. Julio Jones is another guy who I think is gonna be very good.

My point is that you can't just not take a receiver because other teams have failed. It's not Heckert's fault that the fucking Lions can't evaluate talent. There's a reason Matt Millen doesn't have a job.

We need playmakers. We need someone who can make a play and make a catch when we need one.

And on Haden and Ward: Both have turned out to be awesome picks so far. Haden is a flat out monster man. He's had a pick in 4 straight games. He's T-5 in interceptions in the NFL. And my favorite stat is that he's got 15 Passes Defended which is T-4 in the NFL. 10 of those are in the last 4 games. And his run support is some of the best I've seen out of a corner.

Our defense is good. Ryan will probably be gone by this time next year and that's worrisome. But I say we're pretty good on defense. We need a guy who can catch the football. McCoy looks like he could be very very good, but we don't know yet. He needs someone who he can depend on. One receiver and the offense is pretty damn good and almost set except for the right side of the line. We'll have Hardesty back as well to take some of the load off of Hillis possibly.

After AJ Green, I say we just go defense, defense, defense for a couple rounds.

We could be very good next year but to be very good you need people that can catch the ball and people that you can rely on when you need a big play or a third down. We don't have that right now.

I say if Green is there that you have to take him. But really I just trust Heckert to do what he does and I certainly don't think he's gonna be scared off by some other teams failing to choose the right guy.

I know this writing was kind of all over the place but I just let it flow haha whatever
 
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