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Cleveland Browns (2009 Season)

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billmac91;1408856; said:
I can't imagine what type of backlash the GM who trades for Vick is going to get....most teams have a few fans that own and love dogs.
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This guy don't care about no stinkin' dogs...

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billmac91;1408927; said:
Doubt Cleveland has the space to sign him, but Peppers also stated he'd like to sign with a 3-4 team to play OLB.
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I wasn't sure of your cap situation but I figured you guys had a high draft pick and the need so maybe there was something.

I had not heard the OLB thing. I know he's a freak of an athlete but is he really agile enough to make that switch? Why would you want to try a new position when you are all world at your current one?
 
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billmac91;1408927; said:
Doubt Cleveland has the space to sign him, but Peppers also stated he'd like to sign with a 3-4 team to play OLB.
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as it stands right now, cleveland apparently has $13 million in cap room for next year. If stallworthless is cut, that number goes up to $18 million.

that doesn't factor in having to resign sean jones, but it does factor in all roster bonuses due this year.

restructuring any deals or trading anyone like DA also gets the cap number up. So, cleveland does have the cap room to sign someone like peppers, but it wouldn't give them much room to do much of anything else.
 
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Cleveland.com

Browns analysis: As draft approaches, Anderson's value may rise for suitors
by Tony Grossi/Plain Dealer Reporter
Saturday February 14, 2009, 8:02 PM

Now, here's the rub. Trading Anderson would not clear Anderson's salary cap figures from the Browns' books. If they traded him after paying the $5 million bonus, Anderson would count about $8.2 million on the Browns' 2009 salary cap. If they kept Anderson, he would count about $8.8 million.
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I I guess I don't understand why the Browns would still have to count Anderson's salary against the salary cap if they traded him or does the above mean then if they trade him after they pay him his $5 mil roster bonus this year.:huh:

Foremost in this field of teams would be the Jets, Minnesota, Chicago and Tampa Bay. Here's a closer look at those teams.

1. N.Y. Jets: This is a natural, and all the national football Web sites are jumping on it. The Jets have to replace retired Brett Favre with an experienced quarterback, or they will be erased off the back pages of the tabloids by the Giants. It helped the Browns that the Jets retained Brian Schottenheimer as coordinator because he runs the same vertical passing offense best suited for Anderson.

2. Minnesota: Yes, the Vikings might be an elite team if they hired a capable quarterback. But this isn't a good match. Coach Brad Childress runs an off-shoot of the West Coast offense, which demands accuracy on shorter passes.

3. Chicago: General Manager Jerry Angelo finally has given up on Rex Grossman. He said he wants somebody to compete with incumbent Kyle Orton. He recently signed Chicago-area native and Carolina Panther journeyman Brett Basanez, who looks no better than a No. 3.

4. Tampa Bay: The Buccaneers just signed former Browns fourth-round draft pick Luke McCown for $7.5 million over two years, with reportedly $5 million guaranteed. What were they thinking? Anderson is a year younger than McCown and vastly more accomplished. If they traded for Anderson after the Browns paid the $5 million bonus, the salaries of the two would be no problem.

This team desperately needs a big-armed quarterback. New coordinator Jeff Jagodzinksi developed Matt Ryan at Boston College and displayed an aggressive pass offense there. This is a very intriguing match.
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it's most likely because cleveland would be on the hook for the rest of his guaranteed money left in his contract.

what grossi doesn't mention is that while cleveland would only save roughly $1 million from trading DA this year, that they save roughly $3 million in the next 2 years. Cleveland has to pay the $13 million guaranteed in his contract. once they trade him, that's all accelerated into the cap this year i do believe.

the fact that DA comes cheap with 2 years left on his deal makes him valuable now. next year, with only one year left on his deal, his trade value sinks like a stone.

that's why cleveland can cut stallworth. he had little guaranteed money in his deal and what he did have was mostly paid last year.
 
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Jaxbuck;1408929; said:
I had not heard the OLB thing. I know he's a freak of an athlete but is he really agile enough to make that switch? Why would you want to try a new position when you are all world at your current one?
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I think he could be an OLB in a 3-4. He's a freak of an athlete. Used to play basketball in college as well.

I think he'd be better as a DE in a 4-3, but I think he could be a pretty good rush OLB.
 
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Jaxbuck;1408920; said:
Not a Browns fan but the Panthers are going to probably have to part with Julius Peppers. If it could be done I'd think that may help the pass rush a bit.
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As it has been mentioned, the Browns really don't have that much cap money to tie up in one guy when we have so many other needs. Also, I know that Peppers is a freakish athlete but I don't know if I want the Browns to put that much money into a guy who has not played OLB in the NFL. Also, we need to start getting younger and he doesn't do that for us. Not saying that he is that old but....
 
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Cleveland Browns name Steve Hagen, Gary Brown as assistant coaches
by Tony Grossi / Plain Dealer Reporter
Tuesday February 17, 2009, 11:03 AM

CLEVELAND -- Cleveland Browns coach Eric Mangini continues to use the college ranks to fill out his coaching staff.

He named former Browns assistant Steve Hagen, recently at University of North Carolina, to coach tight ends and former NFL running back Gary Brown to coach running backs.

Hagen was Browns tight ends coach from 2001 to '03 under Butch Davis, and then coached quarterbacks in 2004. He rejoined Davis at North Carolina in 2007.

Brown played running back eight seasons with the Houston Oilers, San Diego Chargers and New York Giants.

He was running backs coach at Rutgers University in 2008. Brown got some NFL coaching experience with the Giants in the 2005 training camp and also served coaching internships with Green Bay and Carolina.
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