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Cleveland Browns (2008 Season)

Winslow- yeah, he's been alright lately. He's a threat (on and off the field). He's still pretty athletic, but overall, I'm getting sick of him. He doesn't bring THAT much to the Browns.

Give me the rookie (Rucker) and Heiden. Cheaper, better run blockers, overall- more consistent.
 
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Crennel won't play Rucker Winning first priority for coach, not giving rookies playing time

I guess I really don't understand what Romeo is doing but then again I have given up on trying to figure out what ever he does. I know you should not play guys if they are not that good because it does not give a good sign to the rest of the players on the roster. However, if he is likely to play guys that we drafted and even moved up in the draft to get him, why did we even bother to draft anyone if he is not going to play these guys. Other teams play guys that they have drafted in their first year so what is Romeo waiting for... nevermind.

With regard to trading Winslow, I would have to wait and see what we could get for him but if he starts to demand more money or as other off the field issues I would get rid of him no matter the cost. It is a shame because he is a good football player but has no brains. The same with Edwards. Both of these guys are almost a cancer to the team.
 
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LitlBuck;1354503; said:
I guess I really don't understand what Romeo is doing but then again I have given up on trying to figure out what ever he does. I know you should not play guys if they are not that good because it does not give a good sign to the rest of the players on the roster. However, if he is likely to play guys that we drafted and even moved up in the draft to get him, why did we even bother to draft anyone if he is not going to play these guys. Other teams play guys that they have drafted in their first year so what is Romeo waiting for... nevermind.

With regard to trading Winslow, I would have to wait and see what we could get for him but if he starts to demand more money or as other off the field issues I would get rid of him no matter the cost. It is a shame because he is a good football player but has no brains. The same with Edwards. Both of these guys are almost a cancer to the team.

you'd be hard pressed to convince me that playing darnell dinkins as the #2 TE when winslow is hurt instead of rucker gives cleveland a better shot at winning. crennel not playing the rookies is nothing more than an up yours to the organization that wants to get young guys PT as they look to move forward with a different coach next year.

as far as winslow goes, maybe cleveland can hornswaggle detroit's 2nd round pick for him. they have 2 1sts this draft, so that may work.
 
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Browns not without options Long list of possibilities to replace coach Crennel
By Marla Ridenour
Beacon Journal sports writer

Published on Sunday, Dec 14, 2008
With the Browns 4-9 as they get set to play at the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday night, the firing of coach Romeo Crennel seems like a foregone conclusion. If owner Randy Lerner isn't able to entice former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher out of the CBS broadcast booth, Lerner will have several options for Crennel's successor.
He could consider a retread, a former coach such as Brian Billick, Marty Schottenheimer, Jim Fassel or Steve Mariucci. After the Butch Davis fiasco, most presume Lerner won't dip into the college ranks again and try to lure someone like Bob Stoops of Oklahoma or Jim Tressel of Ohio State.
If Lerner opts against both of those routes, here are some NFL assistants Lerner and other owners will consider when the postseason purge begins.
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Eagles will be flying after Dorsey Browns are focused on keeping attacking defense off quarterback
By Marla Ridenour
Beacon Journal sports writer

Published on Monday, Dec 15, 2008
BEREA: Tonight when Ken Dorsey is lying on the ground at Lincoln Financial Field a little dazed and confused, he might forget where he is for a second.
The Browns quarterback might think he's back at the Fiesta Bowl with the University of Miami, getting pounded by Ohio State in the 2002 national championship game.
''They were getting to Dorsey pretty good and that hadn't happened the whole year,'' Browns tight end Kellen Winslow, another ex-Hurricane, recalled of that night.
Dorsey will be under fire from all sides as the Browns (4-9) visit the Eagles (7-5-1) for the Browns' third appearance on Monday Night Football this season. With the Eagles fighting for their playoff lives and seeking their third consecutive victory, defensive coordinator Jim Johnson will waste no time calling for pressure, which can come from anywhere on the field.
Taking over after season-ending injuries to Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson, Dorsey will be making just his second start since 2005. On Dec. 7 at Tennessee, the Titans' front four made his life miserable. Dorsey completed 22-of-43 passes for 150 yards with a sack and an interception for a 49.6 rating. The day after the game, Dorsey gingerly climbed the stairs at team headquarters, but insisted he felt no worse than after his other 10 career starts.
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Struggling Browns no challenge for Eagles

Cleveland didn't score until the fourth quarter on way to its fourth straight loss.


By the Associated Press

Tuesday, December 16, 2008

PHILADELPHIA ? Written off last month, the resurgent Philadelphia Eagles are making a strong playoff push.
Donovan McNabb threw for 290 yards and two touchdowns, Asante Samuel scored on an interception return and the Eagles beat the struggling Cleveland Browns 30-10 on Monday night for their third straight victory.
Philadelphia (8-5-1) remained a half-game behind three teams in the race for the two NFC wild-card spots. The Eagles have to win their final two games ? at Washington and home against Dallas ? and need Atlanta or Tampa Bay to lose once to secure a playoff berth.
"We put everything together and we're playing some pretty good ball right now," said safety Brian Dawkins, who set a team record by playing his 181st game with the Eagles. "We are a very, very confident group and we're looking forward to this next game."
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Folly in Philly Offense again fails to score touchdown in loss
POSTED: 02:00 a.m. EST, Dec 16, 2008
By Marla Ridenour
Beacon Journal sports writer

PHILADELPHIA: The drought is over, sort of.
The Browns ran their streak of games without an offensive touchdown to four, but cornerback Brandon McDonald broke through for a defensive touchdown. Even as McDonald leaped over the goal line in what could have been construed as a mini-celebration, gloom still prevails in Brownstown.
Philadelphia Eagles cornerback Asante Samuel returned the first of two Ken Dorsey interceptions 50 yards for a touchdown and the Eagles kept their playoff hopes alive with a 30-10 victory Monday night at Lincoln Financial Field.
The Eagles (8-5-1) earned their third consecutive victory, and the Browns (4-10) dropped their fourth in a row and sixth of their past seven. They slipped to 2-1 on Monday Night Football.
''I thought we played hard, we just didn't have enough ammunition,'' Browns coach Romeo Crennel said.
The touchdown drought, of which quarterbacks Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson and Dorsey have been a part, merely adds to the insult of a disintegrating season. For the offense, the streak stretches nearly 17 quarters to Jerome Harrison's 72-yard run with 14:47 left on Nov. 17 against the Bills in Buffalo.
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Davis content right where he is If departure is in future, Browns linebacker says he'll have no regrets
By Marla Ridenour
Beacon Journal sports writer

Published on Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008

PHILADELPHIA: If this is the twilight of his time in Cleveland, Andra Davis could count it down in days and minutes, were he into that sort of thing.
But if Browns management, perhaps a new regime, determines it needs a faster linebacker to replace the seven-year veteran, he will depart quietly in search of another team without worry or regret.
''You know me, I'm one day at a time,'' Davis said last week. ''I've seen a lot happen. Whatever is going to happen next year is going to happen. That's all in God's control. It's not in my control.''
Davis, who turns 30 on Dec. 23, was supposed to be out the door long before this.
His playing time was reduced in 2007, when he was taken off the field on third down and shared snaps with Leon Williams. Then in the offseason, the Browns cut Davis' salary by about 40 percent and terminated the final two years of a $20 million contract he signed in 2005. When the dust cleared, he made a reported $1.675 million in 2008, his contract year.
But rather than leave in a huff, he listened to coach Romeo Crennel, who convinced him that there were more good times ahead after a 10-6 season in '07. That prospect excited Davis, who had seen more bad times than good in his previous six seasons, when the Browns compiled a 38-58 record.
Crennel's prophecy was off the mark. Going into Monday night's game at Philadelphia, the Browns were 4-9, three games from closing out a disastrous season that will probably cost Crennel and perhaps General Manager Phil Savage their jobs.
What lies ahead does not weigh on Davis, a fifth-round pick in the 2002 draft.
''Not really. I'm not a young guy anymore. Me and my family are financially set for the rest of our lives,'' he said, referring to his wife and three daughters. ''I'm not going out there hoping or wishing or looking for that big payday. We're in a nice situation.''
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Browns deliver a holiday snoozer: Mistake-prone Eagles coast to 30-10 romp

by Tony Grossi/Plain Dealer Reporter Monday December 15, 2008, 11:34 PM


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John Kuntz/The Plain DealerEagles linebacker Trent Cole rejoices in his second-quarter sack of Browns quarterback Ken Dorsey Monday night in Philadelphia. The Browns managed just 196 yards of offense for the night.
UPDATED: 12:40 a.m.
PHILADELPHIA -- Raise your hand if you're in favor of the Browns' offensive execution.
They extended their drought without an offensive touchdown to 16 quarters Monday night in bowing to the Philadelphia Eagles, 30-10.
Their lone touchdown in four games was scored on a Brandon McDonald's 24-yard return of a Kevin Kolb pass in the fourth quarter. McDonald ended the first half with a 98-yard interception, but didn't score.
Treating the "Monday Night Football" audience to the stick-in-the-eye brand of football to which they have devolved, the Browns dropped their fourth in a row and sixth in their last seven.
At 4-10, they reached double-digit losses for the third time in coach Romeo Crennel's four seasons and seventh time in 10 years of the expansion era.

This debacle completed the Browns' three-game lifespan on "MNF" -- each with a different starting quarterback. Ken Dorsey was the only one to author a Cleveland loss. He had no chance.
The Eagles scored a touchdown on their first drive. That deficit is insurmountable in the Browns' present condition.

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McDonald's thefts are Browns' lone highlights

by Mary Kay Cabot/Plain Dealer Reporter Tuesday December 16, 2008, 12:24 AM


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John Kuntz/The Plain DealerBrandon McDonald's interception in front of Hank Baskett thwarted the Eagles' last scoring chance of the first half. McDonald's 98-yard return was the longest in NFL regular-season history to not end with a touchdown.
PHILADELPHIA -- You know your offense is in a heap of trouble when it takes a defensive player to rustle your team out of its touchdown slumber. Cornerback Brandon McDonald intercepted two passes and busted the Browns' touchdown skid when he scored on a 24-yard return in the fourth quarter of Monday night's 30-10 loss to the Eagles.
"It's great to get the picks, but they really don't mean much if you don't get the 'W,'" said McDonald. "I'd trade in both of them for a victory. We just have to keep trying."
The score snapped a string of 15 straight quarters without a touchdown -- dating back to the fourth quarter of the 29-27 victory over the Bills Nov. 17. The offense has still gone 16 quarters without sniffing the end zone.
"I don't know anything about those kind of stats," he said. "I was just glad to be able to make some plays and try to contribute."

In the second quarter, McDonald picked off a pass intended for Hank Baskett five yards deep on the left side of the end zone -- and then Baskett caught him from behind at the Eagles 7 after Brian Westbrook slowed him down as time ran out in the half. The pick prevented Philly from going ahead, 24-3, at the break. McDonald made a sensational one-handed grab on the play.

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Grossi's edge for Browns-Eagles

by Tony Grossi/Plain Dealer Reporter Tuesday December 16, 2008, 12:02 AM


Offense: The Eagles could do anything they wanted. In fact, they got greedy twice near the goal line and cost themselves two touchdowns with interceptions on ill-advised play calls. Donovan McNabb threw for 290 yards and two TDs. Jason Avant had his first career 100-yard game. Of course it was his first career game against the Browns' soft coverage. EDGE: Eagles.
Defense: The Browns do one thing good and that's take the ball away. Three more interceptions (two by Brandon McDonald) gave them 22 on the season, tied with Baltimore. Naturally, they still do things like allowing a 15-yard run on a third-and-4 handoff. EDGE: Eagles.
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