Charlie Weis (ex-Kansas HC, ex-Fla OC, Notre Dame legend, UnDecided Schematic Advantage)

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

"So I asked Charlie, 'Hey coach, this Ohio State defense is probably the best you've faced all year, how do you plan on moving the ball?' and he said 'well, have you seen Tennessee?' and I thought, 'Well, you know what, coach, no I haven't.' Well, Charlie, I watched some tape and this is the best defense you've faced all year."

- Brent Musburger (paraphrased) 1-2-06

 

[Steve19]

I just hope that the recruits see Weis for what he is now. If they do, he won't get a decent recruit.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

...I don't think any comment needs to be made about ND playing at Washington.

Washington of this year would pound ND...next year's team with an experienced Locker will simply kill them.

thats fuckin great

Dude, that thing is at least five years old...quit buttering your biscuit in the RR. :)

 

[OCBucksFan]

Sept. 6 SAN DIEGO STATE

SDSU can put up a fight, as Buckeye fans know, they won't give up and if NoD is anywhere near where it is now I would not be surprised to see the Aztecs put a win in the books. They aren't anywhere near great but they do know how to stay in a game and if you under-estimate them, they will burn you. Shame that game isn't in San Diego, I could go see the Hamburgler's career end before my very eyes :)

 

[Bucklion]

Thought it was kind of interesting on ESPNews tonight...they were beating on Weis a little, then they mentioned the ND AD, and the fact he had said that the buyout for Weis was, and I forget what word exactly he used, but basically meaning it was so astronomically high there's no way they could afford it. The reason I thought that was interesting is that the AD was not exactly indignant about the mention of a buyout...he merely said they couldn't, rather than coming out and saying they wouldn't.

Or put another way...they were so caught up in structuring the contract to keep his Royal Fatness from bolting to the NFL that they never adequately planned for the time they would be hoping he would bolt for the NFL.

 

[Dryden]

I'm wondering about the speculation that the team has quit on Weis coupled with Bruce Feldman's observation that this O-Line isn't exactly new. I mean, isn't the center, John Sullivan, a four year starter? He's been on the Rimington watch list two consecutive years, has blocked for a 1,000-yard rusher for three consecutive years, and has started something like 36 straight games! And suddenly, overnight, he can't place a shotgun snap?

Makes me wonder ... given Demetrius Jones was the most popular quarterback on the team, you think maybe the O-Line started mailing it in after he got benched for the prima donna? I always wondered what the team thought of Clausen's limo rides and rings and other BS ...

Maybe the O-Line wants Clausen to get killed.

 

[Dryden]

vBet for how long Jones had actually been at NIU while still showing up for practices at Notre Dame? This report would indicate it was going on for nearly two weeks!

Away from Irish, Jones looks at NIU :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Colleges

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A source close to the NIU program said he was told that Jones enrolled at the school on Sept. 4 -- the same day Clausen was named the Irish starter. A Demetrius Armond Jones of Chicago is listed in NIU's online student directory.

By enrolling by this past Wednesday -- the 12th day of classes at NIU -- Jones can count this fall toward the year he must sit out as a transfer. He then would have three more years of eligibility beginning in 2008 because he did not play as a freshman at Notre Dame.

...

 

[sandgk]

I wonder how the NCAA will really view this. Can you, as a student-athlete at one school, enrol at another contemporaneously with the intent of later transferring? Just asking as it seems there was not a clean break here, for a period of at least eight calendar days Jones was the beneficiary of a scholarship at ND while already on the books at NIU. Seems like small potatoes perhaps, but eligibility issues might arise, no?

 

[ant80]

I wonder how the NCAA will really view this. Can you, as a student-athlete at one school, enrol at another contemporaneously with the intent of later transferring? Just asking as it seems there was not a clean break here, for a period of at least eight calendar days Jones was the beneficiary of a scholarship at ND while already on the books at NIU. Seems like small potatoes perhaps, but eligibility issues might arise, no?

There was a Utah player who played in 2005 and transfered to D-1AA, finished his degree, and transfered to Florida in 2006, being eligible to play the same year. They immediately changed the rules to exclude transfer upon graduation. We might see something similar in the works.

 

[NFBuck]

Has anybody ever seen a program implode this swiftly and brutally before? I mean, NoD fans have been trumpeting Weis as a savior for 2+ years and now they are watching one of the most inept CFB teams I've personally ever seen and the entire program seems to be completely unraviling. This is incredible.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I wonder how the NCAA will really view this. Can you, as a student-athlete at one school, enrol at another contemporaneously with the intent of later transferring? Just asking as it seems there was not a clean break here, for a period of at least eight calendar days Jones was the beneficiary of a scholarship at ND while already on the books at NIU. Seems like small potatoes perhaps, but eligibility issues might arise, no?

It may conflict with the letter of the rules in some manner, but how can you not side with Jones on this? It sure sounds like the genius and protector of all that is moral and decent completely jacked this poor kid around in Spring and Summer practices by letting him believe that he was competing for a starting job when the job belonged to Jesus Clausen all along.

If Weis had been forthright and honest, Jones would have had the option to transfer at the end of Spring. He was forced into the late transfer by Weis' dishonesty and manipulation.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Could there be a more symbolic figurehead for ND and its fan base than Charlie Weis?

Fat, overrated, and arrogant with absolutely no recent production to back it up. Living off of reputation from the past that may or may not have been all that well deserved.

It just kills me how he became their savior when in all reality he was way down the list on the ND coach search. They finally got down to a guy who would take the job, hyped him up like he was Bill Walsh and now most still can't come to grips with the obvious fact that he is completely out of his depth.

The best part is they face a choice of keeping his incompetent fat ass for several more years or starting yet another coach search with an even smaller field of quality candidates. What could possibly be more appealing about that job next time than last time?

They are going to have the Earle bruce effect...gotta keep a shit bird for entirley too long because we fucked up and fired the last one way too quick. Big difference is I'd take John Cooper over CW anyday of the week and for me thats saying something, I'm not the biggest Coop fan thats ever lived.

I know some think I'm overstating it but their administration has them playing with the fire of permanant second rate status.

 

[iambrutus]

Could there be a more symbolic figurehead for ND and its fan base than Charlie Weis?

Fat, overrated, and arrogant with absolutely no recent production to back it up. Living off of reputation from the past that may or may not have been all that well deserved.

GPA

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Rumors and Rants: Have The Irish Quit On Weis?

The site is in HTML and not PHP, so I won't copy it, but a supposedly "pro-Irish" site is blasting Weis and his coaching "acumen", if you want to call it that.

Fun read too.

Great read. I love how he's alienated the former players by denying them access to the program. That's classic Charlie. The wanna-be jock sniffer sitting in the stands now getting his revenge on those who were actually playing.

If the man were not such a complete and total tool, I'd almost feel sorry for him. Given his shameless self promotion and egotism, however, watching him self-destruct is just pure pleasure. Hey Charlie, wasn't something once said about pride coming before a fall.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

They are going to have the Earle bruce effect...gotta keep a shit bird for entirley too long because we fucked up and fired the last one way too quick. Big difference is I'd take John Cooper over CW anyday of the week and for me thats saying something, I'm not the biggest Coop fan thats ever lived.

Neither was I, but Cooper seemed to be a decent guy for all his faults. As for Earl. Earl's more of a man and more of a football coach in his left pinky than Fat Bastard could ever be in his entire gargantuan planetary mass. While I felt it was time for him to go in '87, Earl--through his continued love and loyalty to Ohio State--had done nothing but earn my everlasting respect.