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Charlie Weis (ex-Kansas HC, ex-Fla OC, Notre Dame legend, UnDecided Schematic Advantage)

ulukinatme;1381501; said:
No, this program was on the downturn long before Ty showed up, he just didn't do anything to help the situation, made it worse than it had been. Charlie has done two things: Win a bowl game, however weak it was, and brought in recruits which have yet to live up to potential under his guidance. Essentially, he has nothing to brag about. People thought this year was do or die, I don't know what next year is.

Charlie's caught a huge break. Michigan, Purdue and possiby MSU are going to be way down next fall. He could easily have a two loss season.
 
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cincibuck;1400301; said:
Charlie's caught a huge break. Michigan, Purdue and possiby MSU are going to be way down next fall. He could easily have a two loss season.

You think Michigan will? I was under the impression they should improve. We have to play them in Ann Arbor in the coming year, which is always fun when we take it to them in their own house :biggrin: Didn't happen 2 years ago though, last time was Brady's Junior season. Last year's game probably would have been closer, but the torrential downpour in South Bend caused scUM to have ball handling problems.

While I think Purdue should be an easier win, you can never count out Michigan State against the Irish. They have more problems with MSU than Michigan in the last 10-15 years. It's an old rivalry for the Megaphone, and MSU always comes to play. Same for a Boston College match, they always play the Irish well.
 
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ulukinatme;1400941; said:
Last year's game probably would have been closer, but the torrential downpour in South Bend caused scUM to have ball handling problems.

scUM caused scUM to have ball handling problems. Michigan had 6 turnovers to Notre Dame's 2. The team was so bumbling, they couldn't hold onto a football, something they had been playing with their whole life.

Michigan's spring game should be a practice on holding on to the football. Rumor has it they've switched Nick Sheridan for the kid from Rushmore, and he's their QB next year.
 
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cincibuck;1400301; said:
Charlie's caught a huge break. Michigan, Purdue and possiby MSU are going to be way down next fall. He could easily have a two loss season.


I agree that Charlie has personally caught a huge break. His record next year with that schedule will save his job.

ND caught a terrible break (which brings me no small amount of glee) because now they will be weded to CW for a LONG time. I don't care how any Domer tries to spin it, thats not a good thing for them.

Net result is we'll have to stomach a lot of "return to glory" talk next year but overall we'll come out ahead as long as the not so little tuna is in charge at ND.
 
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Jaxbuck;1402768; said:
I agree that Charlie has personally caught a huge break. His record next year with that schedule will save his job.

ND caught a terrible break (which brings me no small amount of glee) because now they will be weded to CW for a LONG time. I don't care how any Domer tries to spin it, thats not a good thing for them.

Net result is we'll have to stomach a lot of "return to glory" talk next year but overall we'll come out ahead as long as the not so little tuna is in charge at ND.

I like your optomism. Michigan will be trying to get by with either a sophmore at QB with very few snaps, a freshman with no snaps or two "experienced" QBs who didn't show much last year except an alarming ability to put the ball on the ground. As we found out last season that will make for a long season when playing top tier teams. Purdue just seems to have gone about as far as Joe Tiller could take them and I don't see the shift to a new coach, even one from within, keeping them up, especially as competition for Chicago talent has expanded. MSU may be our only prayer for a Big 10 win over the Irish.

So Charlie catches a break, he gets a third "great recruiting class," Claussen gets a Heisman whiff until the SC game and NBC mails in another check. Gag!
 
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Most of us will smile at the second sentence under Charlie's name in this article.

The other two in his 'Gone without a big year' category are Al Groh and Steve Kragthorpe.

CFN.com

Three Big-Name Coaches Who'll Be Gone Without A Big Year

Charlie Weis, Notre Dame

You never get a second chance to make a first impression. Being an arrogant blowhard is nothing new for a college football head coach, in fact it's usually a prerequisite.

But when you come in bragging that your team will have a 'schematic advantage' over everyone else, and your personality is about as pleasant as getting the back of your thigh shaved off by a cheese grater, there's going to be a backlash when there are lean times.

When you're known as an offensive mastermind and your team comes up with the worst offensive year in the history of Notre Dame football, job security will be an issue. The Irish wasn't all that bad last year, but the mediocre season and a blowout loss to USC all but kicked Weis out on his can. Instead, he was given one more year with a 'BCS or bust' demand/threat. To be fair, forgetting about the Ty Willingham coaching time frame side of the equation, had he been able to sell the idea that he deserved a year for his recruiting classes of a few years ago to mature, people would've bought it. With a light schedule and a team good enough to come up with a double-digit win season, the potential is there to come up with a great year, even if the Irish fall just short of getting to the BCS. Weis probably doesn?t have to get to the BCS to keep his job as long as the team shows major signs of improvement, but anything less than a big step forward will mean a new era in South Bend next year at this time.
 
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