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Charlie Strong (former coach)

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kujirakira said:
I was excited about this until I saw that Bedford is following him down.
Damn damn damn and damn.
He was at the top of my wish DC wishlist.
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Looks like y'all are stuck with Fickell for another year. That's how we feel about Tim Beck. Paying that mofo close to, in upwards of 700k and we get the offensive juggernaut that ranks last in the country in passing.
 
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alexhortdog95 said:
Looks like y'all are stuck with Fickell for another year. That's how we feel about Tim Beck. Paying that mofo close to, in upwards of 700k and we get the offensive juggernaut that ranks last in the country in passing.
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??? We have an open DC/secondary coach... Bedford wasn't coming in for a soon to be fired Fickell he would have been coming in for Withers and a demoted Fickell
 
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I was just having a wet dream; ala Longhorns thinking Saban was a possibility. There's hardly any guarantee he would've come even if he wasn't following Strong.
He probably would've been among the candidates to be HC at Louisville...
I'd kill somebody to bring him to Columbus after watching their bowl game, however.

Marshall's Heater is probably a more realistic option?
 
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Ord hit the nail on the head when he talked about some Texas boosters might not be happy. Well, Red McCombs is certainly not happy.
"I think the whole thing is a bit sideways," McCombs said via ESPN.com. "I don't have any doubt that Charlie is a fine coach. I think he would make a great position coach, maybe a coordinator.

"But I don't believe [he belongs at] what should be one of the three most powerful university programs in the world right now at UT-Austin. I don't think it adds up."
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Texas booster calls Charlie Strong hire 'a kick in the face'
 
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LitlBuck said:
Ord hit the nail on the head when he talked about some Texas boosters might not be happy. Well, Red McCombs is certainly not happy.

Texas booster calls Charlie Strong hire 'a kick in the face'
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Its going to be very interesting... the way the local heads explain it. Patterson, the AD, was brought in to change the culture at UT from country club etc etc etc... Allegedly the big Cigars (Thujone's words) were on board... perhaps they didn't realize they were being cut out. If he wins quickly this all goes away and the boosters get back in line, he doesn't by year 2 my guess, the richest AD in the country might stop getting those large checks which will make it a very interesting place.
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
Its going to be very interesting... the way the local heads explain it. Patterson, the AD, was brought in to change the culture at UT from country club etc etc etc... Allegedly the big Cigars (Thujone's words) were on board... perhaps they didn't realize they were being cut out. If he wins quickly this all goes away and the boosters get back in line, he doesn't by year 2 my guess, the richest AD in the country might stop getting those large checks which will make it a very interesting place.
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Freek needs to keep the Blazing Saddles references coming - cause they will fit perfectly for this situation.
 
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LitlBuck said:
Ord hit the nail on the head when he talked about some Texas boosters might not be happy. Well, Red McCombs is certainly not happy.

Texas booster calls Charlie Strong hire 'a kick in the face'
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"Charlie?" Are they friends, or perhaps is Red still living in the 50s where he considers it his god given right as a white man to refer to blacks by their first name?

[Red McCombs]That Charlie is a real fine boy, and I don't mean any disrespect to the boy, but wouldn't he feel more comfortable in a different role like doing the team's laundry or sweeping up the locker room, perhaps shinin' their cleats up all pretty.[/Red McCombs]

The sad thing is that he's not some jock-sniffing small timer like Bobby Degernonimo (or whatever the fuck his name was). He's their Les Wexner.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
"Charlie?" Are they friends, or perhaps is Red still living in the 50s where he considers it his god given right as a white man to refer to blacks by their first name?

[Red McCombs]That Charlie is a real fine boy, and I don't mean any disrespect to the boy, but wouldn't he feel more comfortable in a different role like doing the team's laundry or sweeping up the locker room, perhaps shinin' their cleats up all pretty.[/Red McCombs]

The sad thing is that he's not some jock-sniffing small timer like Bobby Degernonimo (or whatever the fuck his name was). He's their Les Wexner.
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Eh, I think you are reaching here.

Red McCombs calls people by their first name mostly because he's a genuinely warm human being and that is how you refer to people you think of as friends. If you want to look at it more cynically you could say the guy at the top of the food chain almost always refers to those below him by first name while the rest of us are in the social position to call him "Mr. McCombs" until he says to call him 'Red".

Charlie Strong is in a subservient position to Red McCombs in that organization just like Urban Meyer is to Lex Wexner at OSU. I highly doubt you could interview Mr Wexner right now and get a quote from him where he refers to Urban as "Mr.Meyer".

The real problem is going to come from from people who are so hung up on white guilt and race issues that they can't deal with a black guy being in a lesser position to the white guy without reading racism into every nuance of the otherwise perfectly normal relationship.
 
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I disagree. Had the UT President and AD referred to Strong as Charlie at his press conference, I don't think it would have even registered with me. McCombs, to my knowledge, had no role in hiring Strong and has never met him. I think it's highly presumptuous--particularly in an interview where you're essentially slamming his hiring--to refer to him by his first name. And in Texas and the South that presumption (assumption?) of informality by whites towards blacks does have a loaded historical dynamic that is completely absent in any relationship between Les Wexner and Urban Meyer. History matters, and I don't think it's white guilt to take note of how easily and comfortably McCombs slipped into that Old South power dynamic.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I disagree. Had the UT President and AD referred to Strong as Charlie at his press conference, I don't think it would have even registered with me. McCombs, to my knowledge, had no role in hiring Strong and has never met him. I think it's highly presumptuous--particularly in an interview where you're essentially slamming his hiring--to refer to him by his first name. And in Texas and the South that presumption (assumption?) of informality by whites towards blacks does have a loaded historical dynamic that is completely absent in any relationship between Les Wexner and Urban Meyer. History matters, and I don't think it's white guilt to take note of how easily and comfortably McCombs slipped into that Old South power dynamic.
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You could be a pro choice, bra burning, half black, half Asian gay communist and work comfortably for Red McCombs if your talent at work made his organization money. I've done business with them over the years and know many in his organization personally. I'm not guessing.

You are reading waaaay too much into this.
 
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