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CBF40'S Look at '09 recruiting

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stkoran;1180453; said:
Does the Bellamy offer have more to do with Muldoon's recent ND offer, his camp performance, or some of both?
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Has nothing to do with Muldoon, IMO. They most likely project at two different positions along the DL.
 
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If we take over 25, and everything is indicating that we will from what you guys are saying, when would a guy have to enroll in school for him to count against last year's class. Would he have to enroll in Summer school or could he wait until the Fall or....
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Didn't see an answer to this question - but the answer is that you can't enroll more than 25 during any one academic year and the academic year starts with the fall term.

But I absolutely do not see more than 25 in this class. Every other day I read about another stud for 2010. We have 45 on the roster today who will not be seniors next season. Add a class of 25 this year and you are at 70. That leaves you room for 15 recruits in 2010 with the only way to make more room some form of early departure from that group of 45. We will have some of those, but even 5 only takes us to 20. And you need to allow for the potential of a walk on or two earning a schollie by cracking the two deep (although I grant that this is getting harder than ever).

I just don't see the big class some do.

(Although - it does get interesting when you consider we were trying to figure out how to fit everyone into this class before Clarke and Bellamy.)
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1180492; said:
We will not sign more than 22 or 23. We will not touch 25...bank it.
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Bellamny will be #17.

Hall and Newsome are #18 and #19.

Emelien, Hyde, Carter, and Berry are #20, #21, #22, and #23.

I highly doubt they turn down a Watt, McGee, Adams, etc. Those would push us past your "bank it" number.

Anyway, Oregon I agree with Duane. I think he would make a good OL. Part of the reason I liked him was the versitility.
 
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With what the staff has working I can't see how they could cut this class short of 27-28. We are at 16 right now, with everyone agreeing that Bellamy, Vlad, Berry, Carter, Hyde, Newsome, and Hall are very likely commits at some point. That would put us at 23 with only 2 corners and 2 safeties. I would think at least 1 player from our remaining db offers would be in. Then you have the big national top recruits( Watt, McGee, Adams, Boyd, Evans, etc.) that would be hard to give up on. Haven't even touched on one of either Ezell or Muldoon, or if a second TE wants in. Or if a player like C. Freeman or someone else absolutely blows up at camp or senior year. I think if you have a good handle on early-enroll, grey-shirt situation so that we could fit in 27-28; then our recruiting momentum could easily push this class to that size. And particularily when it comes to the OL-DLines, count me in the "one in the hand" camp, and we'll worry about
the 2010 class after the season.

Edit: By the way Mili, I was writing up my 2 cents worth while you were posting, and this above was in no way a response to your above post. I would say that as of june 9, to have this class land at only 22-23, would require some earth shaking events to transpire. Are you thinking that there may be a weakening in the Fla. contingent, get no more DL, Hall to USC, more defections, or what else?
 
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OSUBuckeye4Life;1180493; said:
Bellamny will be #17.

Hall and Newsome are #18 and #19.

Emelien, Hyde, Carter, and Berry are #20, #21, #22, and #23.

I highly doubt they turn down a Watt, McGee, Adams, etc. Those would push us past your "bank it" number.

Anyway, Oregon I agree with Duane. I think he would make a good OL. Part of the reason I liked him was the versitility.
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Well, first of all we don't have 25 to give...we have 22 (21 seniors and one unused scholarship). I seriously doubt we'll have 3 transfers. If Beanie bails, his opening will be cancelled out by Wilson staying for his med redshirt year (he's currently being counted as a senior and a departure after the 2008 season). If some other junior leaves (e.g., Washington), that would give us 23. With our having only 18 slots for 2010, you can assume the staff will want to try to get around 19-20 for that year (assuming possibly a transfer or two) due to the amount of quality players in the 2010 class.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1180523; said:
Well, first of all we don't have 25 to give...we have 22 (21 seniors and one unused scholarship). I seriously doubt we'll have 3 transfers. If Beanie bails, his opening will be cancelled out by Wilson staying for his med redshirt year (he's currently being counted as a senior and a departure after the 2008 season). If some other junior leaves (e.g., Washington), that would give us 23. With our having only 18 slots for 2010, you can assume the staff will want to try to get around 19-20 for that year (assuming possibly a transfer or two) due to the amount of quality players in the 2010 class.
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Well I see where we differ. I seriously doubt we DON'T lose 3 (or more) due to transfer, grades, etc.

With the pounding RB's take (especially Beanie) I think he is 99.9% gone, regardless of what the young man says.

I see what you are saying though but I don't think you turn down Watt, Adams, Boyd, etc. You just don't. There are no guarantees that you get one that good the following year. Those guys are "elite" talent.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1180523; said:
I seriously doubt we'll have 3 transfers.
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Not sure why. We had 3 just this year(Dukes, Schoenhoft, Lyons) and with the talent Tressel is amassing, transfers are likely to only increase. Not to mention Beanie is pretty much a lock to go early despite how much he loves Ohio St. and there are a few other potential early entrants. Like I said, I can't see any way we take less than 25.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1180288; said:
I say no more than 25 - we fans always tend to over-estimate the number of signees in any given class.
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There is no way we don't oversign IMO...I think 26-27, and I would lean towards 27...

Very possible ... but the June 20th date might be a bit optimistic. That being said, it's tough for any school to go five-for-five with that kind of talent ... but I have to admit that the Buckeyes appear to be the strong leader for each of those five kids.
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Most of them are supppossed to be at camp or have a visit sometime soon, and most are considered as high probability to get it over with then...

I doubt that any local kid gets the fourth slot ... JMHO. If Watt goes elsewhere, then I'd say it's another three-OL class (four, if you count Justin Boren; five, if you count Reid Fragel).
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Just going off of what I have been hearing...It was my opinion early that Justin Boren would be #4, but it doesn't appear that way...Word is that the reason you don't see the big number of offers for the 4th olineman is because any of the Ohio kids they would offer would be over right away...

I say Tyron Ezell ... and the Bucks have a real shot. Kids who are allegedly life-long Buckeye fans (like Muldoon) generally don't wait so long to commit (Muldoon has had an Ohio State offer since early April). It could be that Muldoon is just doing his due diligence ... but the staff is doing theirs as well ... and there appear to be plenty of talented DL in the class of 2010.
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Look like Bellamy will be the guy now...

I'd save a slot (or oversign) for Watt (high interest, along with ND, Michigan, and Illinois, of course), Adams (high interest, along with USC), Boyd (OSU should be a finalist), or Debose (longshot, at best).
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I agree those are the guys, along with McGee that you would oversign for...

So, here's my best guess....

RB - Jaamal Berry
RB - Carlos Hyde
FB - Adam Homan
WR - Chris Fields
WR - James Jackson
WR - Duron Carter
TE - Reid Fragel
OL - Marcus Hall
OL - Jack Mewhort
OL - Corey Linsley
DL - John Simon
DL - Melvin Fellows
DL - Tyron Ezell
DL - Jonathan Newsome
DL/LB - Zach Boren
LB - Storm Klein
LB - Jordan Whiting
LB - Dorian Bell
DB - C.J. Barnett
DB - Jamie Wood
DB - Dominic Clarke
DB - Vlad Emilien
ATH - Jordan Hall
ATH - Corey Brown

Leaving a slot open for Chris Watt (or John Martinez, if he's truly interested)
Might oversign for Corey Adams and/or Jheranie Boyd

I just don't see how prospects like Brad McDougald, Justin Green, E.J. Banks, Pat Muldoon, and Ra'Shede Hageman fit into the picture - it would be nice to find room for all of them, but it's just not possible, unless Ohio State ends up "missing" on some of the current "leans" (Carter, Berry, Emilien, Hall, Newsome, Brown, Hyde). And it always seems like some "under the radar" prospect ends up getting a late offer....
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Now with Bellamy I think that would hurt the chances for Ezell and Muldoon if he pulls the trigger quick...

I think they will go with 6 dbs...It will either be Brown, Vlad, Mcgee/McDougald/Green...

I think that Brown and Vlad have already made their intentions known and we will know for sure when they visit...
 
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I have a theory that the staff maybe slowplaying all the DB prospects to find out whether Washington, Russell, Coleman are leaving first and also to evaluate how the young players currently on the roster is progressing. Don't forget, we do have a lot of safety prospects on the team. Corner is thin but safety is not, at least not on numbers.

Secondly, there are always guys that we have penciled in that go elsewhere. It wouldn't be recruiting without drama. Michael Bush, Dwayne Jarrett, Joe Barksdale, Fred Davis, Ben Martin.......
 
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