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CB Bradley Roby (2x All B1G)

UpNorth_Buckeye;2355373; said:
One last thing: I know these cases aren't comparable, but didn't Frank Clark get suspended one game for a 2nd degree home invasion felony?

There's a big difference between how Brady Hoke runs Michigan's program (as evidenced by his "punishment" of convicted felon Frank Clark) and how we all want Urban Meyer to run Ohio State's program.
 
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lvbuckeye;2355420; said:
telling college kids to stay out of bars is like... well i can't even think of a decent analogy, but college kids go to bars. Tim Tebow went to bars ffs.

I hear you. I would argue that these guys are not typical "college kids". They are high profile students with a whole lot to lose. Carlos Hyde was going to be a major part of Ohio State's push for BIG and national championships. After the season he was probably looking at getting drafted no worse than the 2nd round. Now his college career is most likely over and he now has "character issues", which will cost him literally millions.

So these guys have to weigh the advantages vs. the consequences. Night out in a club or bar vs. millions of dollars and an NFL career. Sorry, if you choose the former, you are a DUMBASS!
 
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OSUK;2355508; said:
So these guys have to weigh the advantages vs. the consequences. Night out in a club or bar vs. millions of dollars and an NFL career. Sorry, if you choose the former, you are a DUMBASS!

Nobody is saying that it needs to be an either/or situation. I remember seeing plenty of football players--stars to walk-ons--at various South Campus bars who never caused or were involved in trouble. The vast majority of football players go out, and we never hear a word about it. The fools who end up in "situations" would probably have ended up in them in a dorm or apartment were they not in a bar.

There's no need to turn our football program into frickin' BYU.
 
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lvbuckeye;2355420; said:
telling college kids to stay out of bars is like... well i can't even think of a decent analogy, but college kids go to bars. Tim Tebow went to bars ffs.

He was only there because their delivery didn't show up that afternoon and was doing them a favor by turning water into wine.
 
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Fremont Buckeye;2355490; said:
I get what you are saying, but that is easier said than done. IMO until you walk a mile in there shoes and were in the exact same situation it is hard to say to these kids be perfect because everyone is watching you.

That in no way excuses what either Roby, Hyde, or any kid did. All you can do is teach, educate, and instill good values and hope kids make good decisions. But in the end kids will most likely make a decision that is not correct and hopefully they are able to own up to making that bad decision and learning from it as well.

At least it appears you got out of Fremont.

Don't move to Indiana...
 
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http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/2013/07...ington/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

On July 21, 2013 the Bloomington Police Department arrested Bradley James Roby (5/1/1992) for A-Misdemeanor Battery.
On July 21, 2013, at approximately 2:40 a.m., Bloomington Police were dispatched to the Dunkirk Bar, located at 430 E. Kirkwood Avenue, regarding a disturbance. When officers arrived they located Bradley James Roby being detained by private security officers hired by the bar. Bar staff, security officers, and an independent witness reported that Mr. Roby had been inside the Dunkirk Bar and had attempted to start a fight with another patron. He was removed from the bar by bar staff. He then attempted to re-enter the bar to locate his friends. At that point he was stopped by security officers and told he could not re-enter the bar. Mr. Roby then struck one of the security guards in the chest, causing a complaint of pain. He was then wrestled to the ground and detained until police arrived on the scene. Mr. Roby was arrested for A-Misdemeanor Battery and booked into the Monroe County Jail.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;2355515; said:
Nobody is saying that it needs to be an either/or situation. I remember seeing plenty of football players--stars to walk-ons--at various South Campus bars who never caused or were involved in trouble. The vast majority of football players go out, and we never hear a word about it. The fools who end up in "situations" would probably have ended up in them in a dorm or apartment were they not in a bar.

There's no need to turn our football program into frickin' BYU.

I wasn't talking about Urban banning bars or clubs. I'm talking about making wise decisions. Bars and clubs present situations that seem to get a lot of athletes into trouble. If a guy is very wise, he might want to avoid high risk places. Maybe he will go to those places, but have rules about what he will and won't do, who he hangs with, and above all, rules about when to leave. But to your point, if you are a fool, you will be a fool in a bar or at home.
 
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Bill Lucas;2355613; said:
Let me know when you discover the formula for keeping college aged people out of bars. :tongue2:

The formula: star college athlete + bar/club + too much alcohol and/or drugs + interactions with people with bad intentions = negative publicity, arrests, suspensions, and the potiential loss of millions of dollars.

There are consequences to every decison we make. I don't go into bars that I haven't been in before, or that haven't been recommended by friends. Even then, you run in to some guys/gals who aren't pleasant to be around. You decide whether you ignore it or confront it and how you confront it. You decide whether you stay or leave.

It's not about kids going into bars. It's about the decision-making process from the time they choose to go to a bar and how they react to what is going on. Regardless, what you decide has consequences - for better or worse.

Bottom line that can't be argued with: if Carlos isn't in that club or Bradley in that bar, we aren't talking about what we are talking about. Some people made unwise decisions, the contexts were bar/club, it's happened a milliion times before, and we will be here again as long as OSU players go to bars and clubs. All that seems, well, undeniable.
 
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Haven't read everyone's take but having been in a bar where the over-zealous bouncer with a 2nd grade reading level defends the local patron regardless of fault, I can easily see Roby being at the wrong place at the wrong time. How things actually transpired, I will not speculate but I am just waiting until we know more to form an opinion on this.

The only thing I will comment on with certainty is that there is no reason to ever go to Bloomington, Indiana other than to kick the [Mark May] out of the Hoosiers (on the field that is).
 
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Dryden;2355588; said:
On July 21, 2013, at approximately 2:40 a.m....

Nothing good happens after 2 AM. Scratch that, nothing good happens after 1 AM. Why? Because when college kids drink they start at 6, 7 or 8, and at the latest 9:00. So if you're out at 2 AM you have been drinking for a minimum of 5 hours. Losing Hyde would hurt. Dunn and Smith won't get the same production as Hyde, but I have faith in their development. Losing Roby would really hurt.... a lot.

Bill Lucas;2355613; said:
Let me know when you discover the formula for keeping college aged people out of bars. :tongue2:

Have 6 am practices or weight training regiments. Doesn't work all the time, but it should get them home by at least 10:00. I'm not sure what restrictions Marotti has when the normal coaches aren't allowed to work with the athletes during summer.
 
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TampaBuckeyes;2355641; said:
Nothing good happens after 2 AM. Scratch that, nothing good happens after 1 AM.

When my kids were in HS I told them that nothing good happens after midnight - so that was curfew. They looked at me like I had 3 eyes. I just kept leaving newspaper articles in their rooms with the time of death, rape, assault, etc. - which was almost always something between 12 and 5 AM.

They hated it and thought I was stupid, but my job was to get them to adulthood alive and relatively unharmed. I achieved that, and if that makes me a bad guy, then so be it.

I also advised them to stay clear of bars and clubs as young adults - advice which they ignored until they started seeing bad things happen in those places, particularly after midnight. Dad isn't so stupid now. :)
 
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