exhawg;1701952; said:
Could be.
The Suns must be glad they kept him. They're looking pretty good so far.
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Could be.
The Suns must be glad they kept him. They're looking pretty good so far.
Ferry definitely made the best deal he could. But you are right, the deal didn't provide Cleveland with another assertive force, who wouldn't be willing to wait and see if Lebron shows up to his potential. At least on the offensive end. Throughout this playoffs I've fully come to respect Andy for what he does on the court.
Maybe Lebron needs that other presence to take the weight off of his shoulders when it's crunch time? It doesn't necessarily have to be in the form of a player...I was thinking maybe more in the form of a coach...
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Maybe Lebron needs that other presence to take the weight off of his shoulders when it's crunch time? It doesn't necessarily have to be in the form of a player...I was thinking maybe more in the form of a coach...
EDIT: 3000'th post!
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tsteele316
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jlb1705;1701951; said:
exactly. rondo shooting 42% on 21 shots in a halfcourt set is exactly what the cavs want, especially when he only shoots about 60% from the line. better offensive execution and more intensity overall, and in transition is what needs to change, not matchups.
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buckeyesin07
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exhawg;1701922; said:
I agree with this totally. The Celtics won't win if we play off Rondo and force him to take jumpers all night. He's not that good of a shooter. We need to keep him from driving the lane and getting layups or kicking to a wide open teammate.
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billmac91
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buckeyesin07;1701982; said:
They are challenging him to shoot. Parker has been giving him massive amounts of space. It hasn't mattered. He's gotten to the rim whenever he's wanted too.
And I don't want half-court sets truthfully. We should be running against Boston. When you push tempo, sometimes you get beat coming back. We put up 120+ in game 3 by playing fast and getting a lot of transition buckets. Playing a half-court slug it out game, plays into Boston's hands who will gladly grind it out, but also take the secondary fast-break and kill you if you don't have someone to stop Rondo.
I'd like to see Cleveland pick up the pace, have LeBron pick Rondo up in transition, and if Pierce gets going a little bit, so be it. It's a hell of lot better than 29 points, most coming from the free throw line, and within 5 feet of the hoop, and 13 assists to guys left alone b/c of help D. Take Rondo away, and you've cut the head-off Boston.
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buckeyesin07
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billmac91;1701996; said:
Not true. When we've given him a cushion, he's either passed the ball or taken a jumpshot, most of which he's missed.
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billmac91
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buckeyesin07;1702007; said:
Ya, I don't agree with this at all. Parker has literally given him 5 feet. He sets up below the free-throw line half the time. But Rondo gets a head of steam, makes one juke, or starts/stops and it's already over. The problem with giving that much space is all takes is minimal effort to even get into the paint. Former Cavs coach John Lucas used to say it's the PG's job to get into the paint every possesion...he was trying to teach Boobie this one off-season as well. But if that's the case, Rondo doesn;t even have to make an effort b/c Parker is so far off.
Not that I have much issue with the way Parker is playing him, b/c he doesn't stand a chance either way. But I'd rather have a guy who can give a small cushion but also make it more difficult to penetrate. Rondo is abusing this team by getting to the rim so frequently....
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
I will admit that I don't watch that many Cavaliers games until the playoffs but I don't understand what is so special about Mo Williams. I take it he is supposed to be his outside shooting but I just don't see it. I have seen him get hot one time during the series but I thought he was supposed to be better done that. Personally, I think West brings a whole lot more to the table than Williams especially on defense.
I also don't understand why they brought Z back if they were not going to use him during the playoffs. I know that maybe the deal with Washington had to include Z or Washington would not have made the deal but that was just for Washington's benefit to clear cap space. We did not have to bring it back to insult the guy which is clearly being done by not playing him in the playoffs.
We are supposed to be a much deeper team than Boston but I just don't see that excellent coach that we have polling the right trigger. Maybe Chris Jent would like another shot at a HC position. I know that Lebron likes him but maybe just as his shooting coach.
I also don't understand why they brought Z back if they were not going to use him during the playoffs. I know that maybe the deal with Washington had to include Z or Washington would not have made the deal but that was just for Washington's benefit to clear cap space. We did not have to bring it back to insult the guy which is clearly being done by not playing him in the playoffs.
We are supposed to be a much deeper team than Boston but I just don't see that excellent coach that we have polling the right trigger. Maybe Chris Jent would like another shot at a HC position. I know that Lebron likes him but maybe just as his shooting coach.
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TRON 2.0;1702013; said:
Rajon Rondo, shots outside the paint:
Game 1 LOSS: 2/2: 100%
Game 2 WIN: 3/6, 50%
Game 3 LOSS: 3/8, 37.5%
Game 4 WIN: 4/8, 50%
Overall, Rondo is actually shooting a higher percentage outside of the paint than inside. The percentage doesn't really matter all that much though, because the number of outside shots he takes or his ability to make them don't seem to correlate to who wins. Rather, it's his ability to get inside and get easy baskets or draw defenders and get them opportunities for easy baskets.
This is where outside shooting matters - If he's making or taking those shots, that means he's not penetrating. The Cavs shouldn't care if Rondo actually is shooting well from mid-range and beyond. I don't know of a good way to track this other than anecdotally, but the real key is assists in the paint by Rondo. I imagine we would a see much greater correlation between that stat and the Celtics' success than what exists for Rondo's shooting percentage or even the number of shots he takes inside or outside of the paint.
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buckeyesin07
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TRON 2.0;1702013; said:
Fail. Reread my post and then you'll see that I'm not talking about his entire shooting percentage. I'm talking about his shooting percentage from jumpshot range which, much like your response, leaves a lot to be desired.
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buckeyesin07
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jlb1705;1702029; said:
I agree with this in general. I'll also add that Rondo is only shooting 28% from 3 point land in the Cavs series and only shot 21% from 3 point land in the regular season. Clearly, his taking jumpshots is not his strong suit and is in the Cavs' best interest.
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