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Buckeye autograph seekers, memorabilia collectors (all merged threads)

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Autograph seekers, memorabilia collectors, jock sniffers

I'm disgusted that purported 'fans' of the Buckeyes could be so enthusiastic about owning some baubble with a current players name scribbled on it that they're willing to shell out serious cash to the player and blantently violate NCAA rules. God, there must be a huge market for this shit - for what? So you can look at some plastic mini helmet on your shelf? So you can put a signed football under glass? The lines at the 'legit' autograph sessions are rediculous. Hundered and hundreds of people want this stuff - but why? I would guess that many fans like to collect autographs to show off to family and friends, but how many go straight to eBay and turn a profit? More than a few, I'd guess. These 18-22 year olds fucking signature is a commodity? Seriously? GMAFB

The idiocy that has landed our beloved team in such hot water is mind boggling. Sure, the players know better. The fans should know better. But my god, how easy is it to sign ones name? If a friend of a friend offers you a few hundred or a thousand cash to scribble your name a few times, how hard that must be to resist. Especially if you see some items with your signature on it fetching $$ on eBay.

It's the demand for this crap that disgusts me. Autograph hounds/collectors are 'loving' the team to death. The market for signed memorabilia is what has allowed this whole scandal to explode. The players fucked up for sure. They knew better. But the whole guise of amateurism in NCAA football is getting thinner and thinner, especially with the ballooning TV deals, bowl payouts to schools, escalating coach contracts, etc. And the players get free room, board, school, books. Sure, a free education is nice, but I'm beginning to feel more and more like the top tier athletes are indeed being exploited. Lots of people/organizations are making serious $$ on the backs of 'amateur' athletes. Something has got to change.
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;1936745; said:
I'm disgusted that purported 'fans' of the Buckeyes could be so enthusiastic about owning some baubble with a current players name scribbled on it that they're willing to shell out serious cash to the player and blantently violate NCAA rules. God, there must be a huge market for this shit - for what? So you can look at some plastic mini helmet on your shelf? So you can put a signed football under glass? The lines at the 'legit' autograph sessions are rediculous. Hundered and hundreds of people want this stuff - but why? I would guess that many fans like to collect autographs to show off to family and friends, but how many go straight to eBay and turn a profit? More than a few, I'd guess. These 18-22 year olds fucking signature is a commodity? Seriously? GMAFB

The idiocy that has landed our beloved team in such hot water is mind boggling. Sure, the players know better. The fans should know better. But my god, how easy is it to sign ones name? If a friend of a friend offers you a few hundred or a thousand cash to scribble your name a few times, how hard that must be to resist. Especially if you see some items with your signature on it fetching $$ on eBay.

It's the demand for this crap that disgusts me. Autograph hounds/collectors are 'loving' the team to death. The market for signed memorabilia is what has allowed this whole scandal to explode. The players fucked up for sure. They knew better. But the whole guise of amateurism in NCAA football is getting thinner and thinner, especially with the ballooning TV deals, bowl payouts to schools, escalating coach contracts, etc. And the players get free room, board, school, books. Sure, a free education is nice, but I'm beginning to feel more and more like the top tier athletes are indeed being exploited. Lots of people/organizations are making serious $$ on the backs of 'amateur' athletes. Something has got to change.
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I'll sign off on this post.....but it's going to cost you.
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;1936745; said:
I'm disgusted that purported 'fans' of the Buckeyes could be so enthusiastic about owning some baubble with a current players name scribbled on it that they're willing to shell out serious cash to the player and blantently violate NCAA rules. God, there must be a huge market for this shit - for what? So you can look at some plastic mini helmet on your shelf? So you can put a signed football under glass? The lines at the 'legit' autograph sessions are rediculous. Hundered and hundreds of people want this stuff - but why? I would guess that many fans like to collect autographs to show off to family and friends, but how many go straight to eBay and turn a profit? More than a few, I'd guess. These 18-22 year olds fucking signature is a commodity? Seriously? GMAFB

The idiocy that has landed our beloved team in such hot water is mind boggling. Sure, the players know better. The fans should know better. But my god, how easy is it to sign ones name? If a friend of a friend offers you a few hundred or a thousand cash to scribble your name a few times, how hard that must be to resist. Especially if you see some items with your signature on it fetching $$ on eBay.

It's the demand for this crap that disgusts me. Autograph hounds/collectors are 'loving' the team to death. The market for signed memorabilia is what has allowed this whole scandal to explode. The players fucked up for sure. They knew better. But the whole guise of amateurism in NCAA football is getting thinner and thinner, especially with the ballooning TV deals, bowl payouts to schools, escalating coach contracts, etc. And the players get free room, board, school, books. Sure, a free education is nice, but I'm beginning to feel more and more like the top tier athletes are indeed being exploited. Lots of people/organizations are making serious $$ on the backs of 'amateur' athletes. Something has got to change.
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No offense man, and I mean this as the opposite of an attack on you, but this is the kind of shit we can't have...people, fans, everyone turning on each other, looking for people to blame. I, for one, have turned my basement into a sports bar of sorts. I have a lot of signed stuff in it, it makes it an enjoyable place to watch a game. Mine were all obtained through legitimate means, and none involve current players, or hocking stuff off e-bay from people who stalk in parking lots. It's a hobby. It is enjoyable to me. It keeps me out of trouble. I can see where some people would think it is worthless. I feel the same about a lot of other people's hobbies, insomuch as I wouldn't have them as hobbies myself. But I don't hold it against them. I'm no jock sniffer, hanger on, wannabe, or anything else. Some of the money I have spent on my stuff has gone to charity. Hell, some has gone right here to BP. I have donated signed items to BP for raffles. There are predators in every walk and facet of life, but if people want to blame me for what's wrong with the world...well, I guess go ahead if it makes you feel better. But there are a hell of a lot of other worse things I could be doing.
 
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You know, Bucky... the more I think about this, the more money we can bring in.... you charge FC, I'll charge you, you charge me, I'll charge you again, and then you can charge me once more... that's like.. what 4x as much money in our pockets from a single transaction with FC?

Love it./
 
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Bucklion;1936766; said:
No offense man, and I mean this as the opposite of an attack on you, but this is the kind of shit we can't have...people, fans, everyone turning on each other, looking for people to blame. I, for one, have turned my basement into a sports bar of sorts. I have a lot of signed stuff in it, it makes it an enjoyable place to watch a game. Mine were all obtained through legitimate means, and none involve current players, or hocking stuff off e-bay from people who stalk in parking lots. It's a hobby. It is enjoyable to me. It keeps me out of trouble. I can see where some people would think it is worthless. I feel the same about a lot of other people's hobbies, insomuch as I wouldn't have them as hobbies myself. But I don't hold it against them. I'm no jock sniffer, hanger on, wannabe, or anything else. Some of the money I have spent on my stuff has gone to charity. Hell, some has gone right here to BP. I have donated signed items to BP for raffles. There are predators in every walk and facet of life, but if people want to blame me for what's wrong with the world...well, I guess go ahead if it makes you feel better. But there are a hell of a lot of other worse things I could be doing.
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a fine retort worthy of it's own GPA
 
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How ridiculous would it be to ban the selling of any college player's signed memorabilia? I feel like this could help solve the problem of players not resisting temptation. (Or it could make the situation much, much worse)
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1936767; said:
You know, Bucky... the more I think about this, the more money we can bring in.... you charge FC, I'll charge you, you charge me, I'll charge you again, and then you can charge me once more... that's like.. what 4x as much money in our pockets from a single transaction with FC?

Love it./
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Hell yes. Of course, we should probably being taxes on it each time, but you know....I just don't think that's very much fun.
 
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As far as I know, there's nothing that prevents the General Assembly from considering a law regarding improper benefits to NCAA student athletes. If you want to be proactive and create some real consequences for the real "jock-sniffers", this seems to be the way to go.

I doubt it will ever happen for who knows how many of these people are also campaign contributors, but this a real problem affecting a state university. Seems the state should be doing something abou it.
 
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Bucklion;1936766; said:
I, for one, have turned my basement into a sports bar of sorts. I have a lot of signed stuff in it, it makes it an enjoyable place to watch a game. Mine were all obtained through legitimate means, and none involve current players, or hocking stuff off e-bay from people who stalk in parking lots. It's a hobby. It is enjoyable to me. It keeps me out of trouble.
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I was afraid my post would be construed as attack on 'legit' autograph seekers. However, I gave you an out, Bucklion:

I would guess that many fans like to collect autographs to show off to family and friends, but how many go straight to eBay and turn a profit?
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You are among the former, and not the latter. I have no doubt your basement/Buckeye room is awesome. I'd love to have a few beers and watch a game in such an environment.

I can see where some people would think it is worthless.
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Herein is the problem. It is clearly not worthless. Each and every signed piece of memorablila will fetch a price. It's the 'aftermarket' that is the problem.

I'm sorry if I came off as attacking a hobby - I know BP has many autograph collectors. I have no problem with 'legit' autograph sessions, etc. I am just disgusted at the buying and selling of this stuff. Much like I'm disgusted at the buying and selling of ivory. Sure, buying some little carved ivory knicknack in some third world bazaar seems innocent enough. However, that simple act of giving someone money for that little piece of ivory encouraged the continued poaching of elephants back up the supply chain. The naive tourist didn't shoot an elephant, but he participated in that supply chain that killed a magnificent beast.

I don't want to see our magnificant beast slain, and I don't think you do either.
 
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