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If we do manage to trade down...I'm all for a coverage corner to eventually play opposite Baxter (physical, boundry type). McCutcheon is quite servicable, so the Rook could ease into the position as a Nickel back and could eventually give us an excellent D-backfield.

I like 1. Carlos Rogers 2. Adam Jones

If you can get Barron after 10, you take him. Williamson is an option, too...but like I said earlier, I'm steering clear of receivers on the first day this year.

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The Browns are getting lucky actually. With the possible San Francisco trade, everyone is saying San Diego would pick Braylon Edwards. In addition Cedric Benson ran a Clarett like 4.6 on his pro day. I can see Cedric drop pass the top 10. That leaves only 2 premium RB out there.

This will create more trade opportunities to get out of the #3 pick. Imagine if Braylan goes #1 and Ronnie Brown goes #2. If you want one of the top RBs or WRs you have one each left and if you are Minnesota or Arizona then you seriously have to consider trading up to get the guy you want.

Of course if the Browns trade down to #7-#10 I can see Williamson becoming a big target. Heck, for those that want QB what if we can still get Smith/Rodgers there? Also if Barron is still there (Tennessee at #6?) this is the area you can pick a Tackle. A ton of options open up.

With the 2nd round pick I love Jason Campbell at that spot. He is becoming the consensous 3rd rated QB, which means we have to hope and pray on draft day he falls into the 2nd round.

What can I say, I just love how the new front office is going about this offseason. They are filling in needed positions and leaving us a wildcard in the draft. I have read many draft pundits that have no clue what the Browns will be doing. I love it!
 
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It is very unlikely that the Browns draft a receiver on the first day, as that is one position Romeo has said he feels good about. Andre Davis is a playmaker when healthy, Antonio Bryant is a prototype #2 and Northcutt is dangerous in the slot. You don't stockpile weapons that you can't use...and Dilfer doesn't have the ability to use them.

If, for some reason, we do decide to take a receiver...I believe it has to be via trade. With all the talk of the Chargers moving up to #1, Braylon could likely be gone by #3. If we trade down...I hear we like Troy Williamson.
I would not call any of these receivers playmakers. Davis is not consistant. Nortcutt is a good special teamer and good # 3. Bryant is the closet to a
playmaker and the verdict is still out on this kid. If you want a qb start talking
to San Diego sooner or later probaly sooner they gonna have to do something with Brees and Rivers.
 
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A few things...


First of all, there were rumors that san fran might trade the #1 pick to san diego for phillip rivers but both franchises have shot that down. If that happened odds are edwards would be taken there.

Secondly, if we go defense in the draft i would like to see D. Johnson taken. He had a great workout at the Texas Pro Day and he can work on the things he need to work on and become a solid NFL linebacker
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/03/28/tfy.pro.days/index.html

"Derrick Johnson of Texas followed up a brilliant display at the Combine by turning in impressive marks in all the positional drills last week during the Longhorns' pro day. He likely proved himself worthy of a top-10 selection in next month's draft. "
 
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With the vikings having 2 1st round picks I think they are going to trade to get edwards. i Don't like the possible san diego trade because if that happens i think the vikes trade up to #1 to get edwards if it doesnt happens i think they would only have to trade up to #3 and we could get there #7 and another pick possibly there 2nd rounder. That would be lovely.
 
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Well, I have seen countless draft projections and the majority think the Browns will take either Alex Smith or Derrick Johnson, the #3 pick is to high for both of these players in my opinion. The best case scenario for the Browns would be to trade down and aquire some additional picks.

I believe that is what they will do.
 
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bucknuts44820 said:
Well, I have seen countless draft projections and the majority think the Browns will take either Alex Smith or Derrick Johnson, the #3 pick is to high for both of these players in my opinion. The best case scenario for the Browns would be to trade down and aquire some additional picks.

I believe that is what they will do.

The problem is, who is really wanting to trade up for the #3 pick? Last year would've been a great one to trade down, such a deep draft. This year is a lot different though. They might have a tough time convincing a team to trade up and give up anything valuable.
 
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They might have a tough time convincing a team to trade up and give up anything valuable.
That is 100% correct, but I think Minnesota might be a possiblity, they may want to trade up and grab Edwards, but after that, its anyones guess right now. Either way I think the chances are slim they trade down, so I see them taking Alex Smith with the #3 pick.
 
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Minnesota loses randy moss... braylon edwards is supposed to be a frachise reciever.

The vikings should be excited that they could possibly get a great reciever with a much smaller ego than the one they had... it would be a dream come true if the browns could make that trade for minnisota's first rounders. Take D.J. at #7 if hes there and if not take the best player available if its not a RB
 
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By Rich Passan
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Rich sounds off on the Browns draft strategy and offers his thoughts on the Browns interest in Elam.
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Spoke with Frank Coyle the other day. He’s the editor, publisher and chief scout for Draft Insiders’ Digest, one of the many college draft publications proliferating the NFL landscape these days.

Coyle said something that resonated in light of the clamor surrounding the upcoming college draft.

Lobbying for the Browns to trade down from their perch at #3 in the first round has spun somewhat out of control on this Web site the last few weeks. With that in mind, I asked Coyle for his thoughts.

While trading down and stockpiling extra picks satiates the draft appetite for many, Coyle said quality over quantity should be taken into consideration.

In other words, this is a draft that has just a few potentially great game-changing players at the top and trading down would deny the Browns a crack at one of them and minimize securing impact players in the later rounds.

Now lest you think Coyle is just another amateur with his own Web site, consider this. He is a full-time scout who does more than read and then write about college players. He also has been a personnel consultant for some NFL teams.

Quoting from Coyle’s comprehensive compendium, Brown General Manager Phil Savage, when he was with the Baltimore Ravens, endorsed Coyle:

“I have found Frank Coyle’s information to be very thorough and insightful. . . . I know how many hours and months the Ravens put in preparing for the NFL draft and I think Coyle and his staff do the same thing. It’s obvious by their volume of quality information on the college prospects.”

This is not meant as a plug for Coyle’s draft book. Subscribe to whichever guru you like and respect. I just wanted some insight on this year’s lottery and he has hit the mark many more times than miss.

The Browns, by some people’s definition, are in a quick-fix mode. And it would be difficult to argue their point since Savage has turned over the roster by 35-40% the last month or so.

On the other side of that argument, there are those who argue it will take at least two years for him to tear down and reassemble the Browns and get them back to at least the competitive stage.

There is no hurry. No one, except maybe those zealots who believe Savage walks on water, expects a miracle from him. At least not for the next two years.

That’s why what he does the weekend of April 23-24 is so important to that end. Because so many good juniors chose to stay in school this year, this draft lacks a sizable number of impact players.

It’s not a weak draft. It’s just not as strong as the last two years. Had he come out this year, there is little doubt offensive tackle D’Brickashaw Ferguson of Virginia would have been the Browns’ top choice.

There would have been far fewer suggestions that the Browns trade down. When you have a chance to get a top-flight offensive left tackle, you stay put.

This year, no one sticks out. There are those who believe that neither of the two top-rated quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith, is worth a top 10 selection. Coyle disagrees with that.

But I do agree with him that the Browns might be better off at #3 than trading down. When there are only a few difference-makers, you don’t fuss around. You take the best player available.

If it’s Derrick Johnson or Shawne Merriman at outside linebacker, so be it. If it’s Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards at wide receiver, do it. If it’s Rodgers or Smith at quarterback or Cedric Benson at running back, pull the trigger.

Don’t pass up a potential Pro Bowler in order to get numbers later on. Numbers mean nothing if the talent doesn’t back them up.

This is not a dart board. Savage & Co. should not sit in the War Room draft weekend and play let’s see how many draft picks we can get. This is the life blood of the organization.

In order to establish some solid building blocks, high picks must be made. The Browns pick either second or third in all seven rounds. The best players available in each round will be there when it’s their turn.

If Savage turns out to be the draft genius most people expected when he came here from Baltimore, he should trust his instincts and go for those best players. He should resist trading down if it means taking a player in the second tier.

<HR width="75%" color=#ff8000>Earlier this week, a story on this site revealed the Browns’ interest in Kent State safety Abram Elam. Who was this guy? Very few people outside of Kent knew had heard of him.

It seemed like a good sleeper-pick kind of a story because it involved someone who played his college ball at a nearby school.

But Elam has a checkered past. The story touched on that past.

Before he landed at Kent State, Elam was a highly regarded safety at Notre Dame. Played some as a freshman. But he played off the field as well.

Three years ago, he was with three teammates were charged with conspiracy to commit rape, criminal deviate conduct and sexual battery. Elam was not charged with the two more serious accusations, but found guilty of sexual battery.

A separate jury found one of the other three charged not guilty and charges against the other two were dropped later.

The judge in the Elam case spared him jail time, but sentenced him to two years probation and 200 hours of community service, according to newspaper reports.

Now, Elam wants to play in the National Football League. Why the Browns are interested is a puzzle. Maybe they didn’t do their homework on him.

Elam is a convicted felon.

Savage and coach Romeo Crennel have strongly indicated they want players of character wearing the orange and brown. They made that perfectly clear when they took over.

Somehow, the words character and felon do not belong in the same sentence.

At the risk of sounding high and mighty, Elam doesn’t belong here. Let someone else take him. There’s got to be someone as good who is a lot cleaner.

I believe in second chances to a certain degree. I draw a large line at sexual assault.

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the first part of the article is ok, but the elam segment is stupid. if this guy bothered to do any homework, he would have known that elam wanted to resolve the situation and move on with his life, despite the fact that had it gone to trial he probably would have gotten off scott free.

the coaches at kent state speak nothing but wonderfully about him, and about his character.

honestly, the way savage and crennel have taken out the trash, they obviously know whether or not someone's character raises a red flag.
 
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4/6/05

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By Les Levine
Date: Apr 6, 2005

Les talks about the Browns top pick, training camp locations, and competing in 2005..
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According to published reports, Utah’s Alex Smith and California’s Aaron Rodgers have visited the Browns in Berea in the past few days, and Auburn’s Jason Campbell will show up some time next week. In addition, GM Phil Savage attended Charlie Frye’s workout in Akron last week.

Certainly, one of the options that the Browns will have with the third pick of the draft is to take Smith or Rodgers---although my guess is that the San Francisco 49ers will take the local player, Rodgers. But, hopefully, the option that is being used with the wooing of the QBs is to make other teams think the pick is a realistic choice, which would improve the Browns trade bargaining power on or before draft day.

If nothing else, the picks of Tim Couch by the Browns, David Carr by the Texans, and probably even Phillip Rivers by San Diego and Eli Manning by the NY Giants, should have proven that a quarterback is NOT the way to go when you have ‘earned’ the top choice. Teams in the NFL have the ability, mostly through free agency as well being the recipient of supposedly an easier schedule, to rebound rather quickly from disastrous years.

Look at the Browns, who have made so many positive personnel moves since the hiring of Savage and Coach Romeo Crennel.

With the addition of some astute draft choices, coupled with the free agent pickups, in addition to the return to health of Kellen Winslow, Jr. and Sean Jones, there is no reason to think this team cannot compete for a division title. However, if the Browns use that top pick for a QB he will stand with a clipboard this season, and get on-the-job training next season.

Even if Smith or Rodgers is the right choice, this team can’t wait that long to produce results. And most NFL observers will tell you that you really don’t get full benefits out of a quarterback until his fourth or fifth year. That is not a good ‘risk/reward’ decision. With the people that the Browns have picked up and let go, there is no reason to wait until the tenth year of the return of this franchise to be ready to compete.

It may sound unrealistic to go from 5-11 to playoff contention in one year under a new system, but it can be done. But not if the Browns pick a quarterback with the third pick in the draft, rather than trading down to get more picks, or taking Braylon Edwards, Mike Williams, or the best linebacker on their draft board.

Everything that they have done puts them in a better position to compete. Picking a QB in the third spot would send out a mixed signal, and that is not necessary at this stage of the game.

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The feedback that I have received from fans concerning a potential move of training camp to Columbus is unanimous---DON’T DO IT!

I know Rich Passan covered this last week, but I want to put in my two cents.

In a previous column I asked you to tell me why you still are Browns fans, despite the relative lack of success of the franchise since 1989, coupled with the move after 1995. Almost unanimously, your responses told me that being a Browns fan is traced back to your parents and grandparents love of the franchise since 1946.

I can totally relate to that. My earliest Browns memories include my father taking me and my brothers to see the team practice during the season at League Park, as well as training camp in Hiram. I, in turn, took my son to Kent State and Lakeland. These are cherished memories for both of us. He hasn’t seen much success since the 80’s, but his love of the team continues.

On the other hand, the Browns are waiting for the right time (i.e. when they have better results on the field) to move their entire facility downtown. That makes perfect sense, even before they show that improvement. Their thought is that it would be easier, for economic reasons, to get what they want and need downtown if they have a better image in the community.



Thousands of fans turned out to see the team in Kent and Lakeland, while the crowds have been sparse in Berea. Randy Lerner and John Collins would be well-advised to understand the positive effect of keeping the team here, rather than go after corporate dollars in Columbus. There is enough mending of fences that need to be done here, before looking elsewhere.

<HR width="80%" color=#ff8000>‘More Sports & Les Levine’ can be seen M-F from 6-7pm and 11pm-midnight on Adelphia Channel 15 in northeast Ohio. E-mail [email protected] or www.leslevine.com

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I am not sure what the Browns should do with the #3 pick right now, a lot of things will happen between now and the draft, which I hope will clear things up.
 
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I am not sure what the Browns should do with the #3 pick right now, a lot of things will happen between now and the draft, which I hope will clear things up.

that is the beauty of it. last year everyone knew cleveland had a draft list that went Gallery, Taylor, Winslow. As each went off the board, everyone knew what Cleveland was going to do. That's how Detroit managed to hornswaggle them so easily.

This year, nobody knows if cleveland is going to go qb, wr, lb or other. everyone below them that has one of those positions as #1 on their draft board is concerned. That makes for great bargaining power.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
 
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