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I just mispelled (fat fingered the keyboard) Hoke on my iPhone and it auto-corrected to Brady agile.... 
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muffler dragon
Bien. Bien chiludo.
Helluva an overall article. Made me want to know what Bacon wrote in 2011 as well.
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A brief look at Hoke's recruiting compared to tOSU.
It says largely what most of us figure. The 2011 class that was formulated in the RR-Hoke transition has largely been a disaster. The funny thing was how excited the scUM message boards were when Hoke was adding guys seemingly everyday. Problem was, most of them were low 3* types that he was poaching from the likes of Indiana and Minnesota. Many of them have since left the program. The 2012-13 classes are pretty big underachievers thus far. They do list Derrick Green as a "solid contributer" which I entirely disagree with. He put up big numbers against Appy State and Fredo, but hasn't done much against their real competition...and he was a dumpster fire last year. The 2014 class is big on talent (on paper), but has two key injuries in Peppers and Drake Harris. The interesting part is the juxtaposition between contributions from younger players between us and them.
http://m.espn.go.com/gene...gon-the-trail&id=59389
It says largely what most of us figure. The 2011 class that was formulated in the RR-Hoke transition has largely been a disaster. The funny thing was how excited the scUM message boards were when Hoke was adding guys seemingly everyday. Problem was, most of them were low 3* types that he was poaching from the likes of Indiana and Minnesota. Many of them have since left the program. The 2012-13 classes are pretty big underachievers thus far. They do list Derrick Green as a "solid contributer" which I entirely disagree with. He put up big numbers against Appy State and Fredo, but hasn't done much against their real competition...and he was a dumpster fire last year. The 2014 class is big on talent (on paper), but has two key injuries in Peppers and Drake Harris. The interesting part is the juxtaposition between contributions from younger players between us and them.
http://m.espn.go.com/gene...gon-the-trail&id=59389
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I was just thinking about this a little while ago. Has he recruited a skill position player that's made a real impact? I honestly can't think of one.
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Funchess. After that, not really, unless you consider Green running over Appy State and Fredo U. DeVeon Smith has been solid in spurts, but for some reason they seem hesitant to give him the ball consistently.
Bottom line, his recruits have largely underperformed terribly given their rankings coming in, particularly on the OL and skill positions. He has recruited some decent defensive players. But, their secondary continues to underperform, and their LBs are not that good either, IMO...other than Jake Ryan, who has regressed since moving to the middle.
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I'm pretty sure that's how it works. If they call targeting, the foul and the ejection can be reviewed. But review can't upgrade the foul to include an ejection. At least not on the field -- there seems to be some leeway with what the Conference can dish out after the game.
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I think he's a good coach for the Big 12. I'm not sure his style would float in the B1G. The knock on RR was that he focused too much on offense and ignored the defense at scUM. That's pretty much Gundy's M.O...they always have a good offense, but defensively, they're usually quite bad.
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