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Brady "XLLL" Hoke (Head Coach San Diego State)

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colobuck79 said:
So you raise the possibility that Hoke was telling the truth when he claimed ignorance on Morris' concussion status and said that he was held out because of the high ankle sprain. I still find this hard to swallow. I can't fathom that even a dope like Jabba wouldn't have asked medical staff about Morris' status on Sunday. So either they told him about the concussion and he lied, or the TSUN medical staff and administration lied to him on Sunday. Then he went another night and morning without being updated. This is one of those things where it would be good to know what he knew and when he knew it. I lean 90/10 towards the Hoke lied side of the equation.
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Purely hypothetical. I have no idea what really happened there within the chain of command. Any form of idiocy/deceit is possible.

In a three-ring circus clown show, it's hard to tell which clown has the seltzer bottle.
 
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mgoblog has posted Part 1 of its Coaching Candidates: The Power 5

It starts by saying the Harbaughs and Sumlin won't be discussed, because everyone knows them and "it's unlikely Michigan secures them."

Onto the mgoblog list (with my quick thoughts in parentheses):

1. Dan Mullen, Miss. St. (not sure Michigan could land him; think he would be a solid coach there, but nothing earth-shattering--would be really lucky to make the playoffs)
2. Mike Gundy, Okla. St. (probably could land him, but not sure Michigan would want him with the issues at Okla. St.; wouldn't be concerned with him as an Ohio St. fan)
3. Todd Graham, Ariz. St. (same as Gundy, minus the issues)
4. David Shaw, Stanford (no way Michigan could land him)
5. Butch Jones, Tennessee (doubtful that Michigan could land him, but he is from Michigan; not sure how good he could be there)
6. Kevin Wilson, Indiana (Michigan could land him; he could be really good or really bad--there are times when I think he has IU headed in the right direction, then Maryland shows up and blows his doors off)

http://mgoblog.com/content/coaching-candidates-part-1-power-5
 
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cincibuck said:
I yield to the fact that you were there and you have the chance to see the whole play repeatedly and from different angles. I'm out of the country and working on the gif posted.

What I see is 55 lower his head - a play which is dangerous to himself as well as the person he hits - and then go airborne. I've never coached football - though I did pass Woody's course - but what Woody taught and what I have seen posted in more than a few locker rooms - is that you tackle "head up" because head down can lead to spine injury to the tackler as well as head to head contact with the other player.

IF you want to use penalties to reduce dangerous play, then it has to be something that has an impact. Throwing 55 out of a game that was already over is not going to cause him - or his coaches - to lose much sleep over his actions. Taking him out of the next game would get the attention of both player and staff.

I concede that this calls for making a judgement call on any such penalty based on where the game stands. C'est le guerre.

And while I'm at it, isn't this the kind of play in which replay should be used? I've got to think that a review of the kick off tackle and follow on by Michigan players in last year's game would have resulted in a much different distribution of penalties than what was allowed to take place.
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I just think there is a difference between tackling improperly, and trying to hurt someone. As you said, the kid putting his head down to tackle is taking as much risk as he is delivering... or at least is putting himself in danger. That's why players need coaching, and I am doubtful he's never heard "See what you hit, and hit what you see" But, that certainly doesn't mean he's going to succeed in doing so 100% of the time. Likewise, failing to tackle properly isn't prima facie evidence of an intent to injure.

I guess I'm not sure they use penallties to reduce dangerous play- sure, some are designed for that - chop block and targeting come to mind, of course. But, that is a judgment call on the part of the official. Bradly Roby hitting a guy half a foot taller got his the targeting suspension and I though it was ridiculous, so... it works both ways, I guess. But, it is what it is. I suppose reasonable minds may disagree on what would or would not mean anything to a player, re: punishing him. But, in as much as, again, Roby, sat because of a ref's ... in my opinion anyway.. poor call, I don't know that I'd advocate a stronger punishment for targeting. Hell, it's already been ramped up from 15 yards to an immediate ejection and suspension for ... what amounts to no less than half a game.

Again, I am all for player safety, but if any vicious hit is gonna be called (which seems to be the direction of this now, both in the NCAA and NFL), just put friggin flags on em and say goodbye to football as we know it.

As to your last question, I though that they could review the hit... Maybe it's if he gets called for targeting then play is reviewed to see if it warrants a suspension, I can't recall for sure... and... I am not arguing that it shouldn't have happened here, necessarily. But, I'm not that work up about a ref missing a call. Again, I thought live speed it shouldn't have even warranted a flag. But, replay did confirm I was wrong in that opinion - but, the official did at least call roughing the passer... If 55 had had his eyes up, perhaps he would have eased up a bit, but... he didn't know the ball was gone and he was going for a big hit. Part of the game. Dangerous? Sure.... but... football IS dangerous by its nature.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
mgoblog has posted Part 1 of its Coaching Candidates: The Power 5

It starts by saying the Harbaughs and Sumlin won't be discussed, because everyone knows them and "it's unlikely Michigan secures them."

Onto the mgoblog list (with my quick thoughts in parentheses):

1. Dan Mullen, Miss. St. (not sure Michigan could land him; think he would be a solid coach there, but nothing earth-shattering--would be really lucky to make the playoffs)
2. Mike Gundy, Okla. St. (probably could land him, but not sure Michigan would want him with the issues at Okla. St.; wouldn't be concerned with him as an Ohio St. fan)
3. Todd Graham, Ariz. St. (same as Gundy, minus the issues)
4. David Shaw, Stanford (no way Michigan could land him)
5. Butch Jones, Tennessee (doubtful that Michigan could land him, but he is from Michigan; not sure how good he could be there)
6. Kevin Wilson, Indiana (Michigan could land him; he could be really good or really bad--there are times when I think he has IU headed in the right direction, then Maryland shows up and blows his doors off)

http://mgoblog.com/content/coaching-candidates-part-1-power-5
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T Boone Pickens won't let Gundy leave. oOSU will match any offer.
 
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