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Brady "XLLL" Hoke (Head Coach San Diego State)

The issue is that's generally not a matter of opinion but SOP at this point in time.
I see no reason why it couldn't be a matter of opinion and SOP, although I wasn't aware of that being some kind of strict, universally adopted rule. And I think someone brought it up earlier in the thread, but I don't remember people being especially outraged when Gardner played the whole OSU/UM game last year, dragging a leg behind him and pretty clearly beat to hell. Or, I'm sure, quite a few other players in recent years who have kept going when they were in obvious, observable pain.
 
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Exactly. It's a ridiculous premise they're trying to sell. They would have you believe not one person of ~ 100+ people on that sideline saw him take that awful hit, nor did any one of them have the presence of mind, or even simple compassion to say "hey, Shane just really had his bell wrung and is staggering around a bit." Please.

Even the fucking incompetent B1G refs were asking Hoke if he wanted a timeout, or wanted to at least pull him out of the game.

What are things said over a headset?

Coaching basics for $200 please.
 
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I see no reason why it couldn't be a matter of opinion and SOP, although I wasn't aware of that being some kind of strict, universally adopted rule. And I think someone brought it up earlier in the thread, but I don't remember people being especially outraged when Gardner played the whole OSU/UM game last year, dragging a leg behind him and pretty clearly beat to hell. Or, I'm sure, quite a few other players in recent years who have kept going when they were in obvious, observable pain.
Head injuries, or in this case--potential head injuries are a much larger issue these days given the documented long-term issues they cause.

The bottom line in all of this is that leaving Morris in that game did no good. He was playing horribly, and was clearly hurt...in more ways than one. Gardner was on the sidelines healthy. Should he have been pulled prior to the hit? Who knows. That's a matter of opinion. But when you throw in the possible head injury following that hit, it should be pretty cut-and-dry. You get him out to evaluate him at the very least, and you certainly don't send him back out a few plays later.
 
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What are things said over a headset?

Coaching basics for $200 please.
Well, see, the OC wears a headset. From what I've seen, Nussmeier is usually only a few feet from Hoke (insert "everybody's a few feet from Hoke on the sideline" fat joke) and he's wearing a headset in every pic/video I've seen. Why didn't somebody upstairs clue him in? And if they did, why wasn't he trying to get him off the field?
 
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Another quote from the presser:

Hoke on whether the athletic trainers did tests on the sideline, “I assume so.”

OK, let me understand this... you've now had 2 days to talk to your medical staff... and.. you didn't even ask them if they tested him? You just assume so?
 
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I see no reason why it couldn't be a matter of opinion and SOP, although I wasn't aware of that being some kind of strict, universally adopted rule. And I think someone brought it up earlier in the thread, but I don't remember people being especially outraged when Gardner played the whole OSU/UM game last year, dragging a leg behind him and pretty clearly beat to hell. Or, I'm sure, quite a few other players in recent years who have kept going when they were in obvious, observable pain.
Harmon also didn't collapse onto another teammate after taking a hit.
 
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Another quote from the presser:

Hoke on whether the athletic trainers did tests on the sideline, “I assume so.”

OK, let me understand this... you've now had 2 days to talk to your medical staff... and.. you didn't even ask them if they tested him? You just assume so?

Dude - 2 days - postgame meal just wrapped up......
 
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