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Boise State in the NC game?

ORD_Buckeye;1686877; said:
I hate that scenario....absolutely [censored]ing loathe it! If Ohio State gets into the NC game, we NEED to play the SEC champ/USC/Texas. Were we to win a NC by going through Boise State, it would give the haters all the ammo they need for another decade.

Two points sir - and I am not trying to be a smartass here.

1. It ain't gonna be a dynamite year for the SEC. So if you get there - you probably aren't gonna play a representative from our conference

2. The teams from our conference don't give a shit who we beat to win it all and we have no problem talking crap once we have the ring - so it shouldn't bother the buckeyes either!
 
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3074326;1686888; said:
A traditional powerhouse vs. traditional powerhouse is going to be win/win for fans and more importantly, the BCS. A gimmicky-field using, trick-play over-using team vs. a traditional powerhouse isn't going to be as popular as OSU vs. USC. Or OSU vs. Texas. Or OSU vs. Florida.

As sad as it is, it bothers me that what we as fans get accustomed to is rooting for what "looks the best". It signifies a great flaw in the system that there's such stock in how the title game "looks".

The two teams that make it to the championship should be the two teams that everyone can agree made it there. NOTE: not "should be there" but the two teams that did what the rule state they should to get there.

Watching the same handful of teams make the title game every year is not what the league should be striving toward.

I dislike Boise State for their fans...nothing more, nothing less...

They feel entitled to some sort of respect that, quite frankly, I don't think they deserve...

Their marquee victories over the past few years have not been nearly impressive enough to be worthy of some sort of significant praise.

This may be the year that people take notice...and if they do somehow manage to win the national championship, it could be very good for the sport. It could also start the ball rolling for a complete overhaul of the system.

Who knows? Maybe we should be pulling for BSU simply for the betterment of the game.
 
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TheRob8801;1686905; said:
As sad as it is, it bothers me that what we as fans get accustomed to is rooting for what "looks the best". It signifies a great flaw in the system that there's such stock in how the title game "looks".

BSU maybe plays a couple tough games a year, and a bowl game. And by tough, I don't mean like our tough, or SEC tough. Although Oregon was an exception last year.

They don't deal with a grueling schedule that requires them to show up every week, like most power conferences do.

That makes them less-deserving. A one-loss power conference team is more impressive to me than a no-loss BSU. Maybe it'll be different if BSU beats Oregon State and VaTech this year. Maybe.

I'm more interested in those games because the look better, sure, but why do they look better? Because there are two better teams playing. It's not because of the names. If you put BSU against a traditional power, I think the traditional power wins the majority of those games. Until they prove to me that they can beat these teams on a regular basis, not once a year, then maybe I'll chance my mind. They're doing their best to schedule better teams, and good for them. Like I said, change the preconceived notions. They might not be deserved, but when you're Boise State you have to do what you can to disprove them. Don't be like Hawaii and bitch about not being in the title game, then get blown out and sink back into obscurity. They haven't done that. But I'm still not a believer.

The two teams that make it to the championship should be the two teams that everyone can agree made it there. NOTE: not "should be there" but the two teams that did what the rule state they should to get there.

This will never happen.

Watching the same handful of teams make the title game every year is not what the league should be striving toward.

I dislike Boise State for their fans...nothing more, nothing less...

They feel entitled to some sort of respect that, quite frankly, I don't think they deserve...

Their marquee victories over the past few years have not been nearly impressive enough to be worthy of some sort of significant praise.
The last sentence in this part of the quote is exactly why I don't want to see them in the title game.

This may be the year that people take notice...and if they do somehow manage to win the national championship, it could be very good for the sport. It could also start the ball rolling for a complete overhaul of the system.

Who knows? Maybe we should be pulling for BSU simply for the betterment of the game.
I don't think BSU winning will overhaul the system, it'd just add another yearly-contender in the same system.

And I'm definitely not pulling for BSU. Gimmicks are lame.
 
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TheRob8801;1686905; said:
As sad as it is, it bothers me that what we as fans get accustomed to is rooting for what "looks the best". It signifies a great flaw in the system that there's such stock in how the title game "looks".

this is hilarious coming from you.

The two teams that make it to the championship should be the two teams that everyone can agree made it there. NOTE: not "should be there" but the two teams that did what the rule state they should to get there.

:lol:

Watching the same handful of teams make the title game every year is not what the league should be striving toward.

What "league"?

I dislike Boise State for their fans...nothing more, nothing less..

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They feel entitled to some sort of respect that, quite frankly, I don't think they deserve...

:slappy:

Their marquee victories over the past few years have not been nearly impressive enough to be worthy of some sort of significant praise.

:roll2:

This may be the year that people take notice...and if they do somehow manage to win the national championship, it could be very good for the sport. It could also start the ball rolling for a complete overhaul of the system.

Whether or not Boise State wins the BcS championship is beside the point. The System isn't going to be overhauled because of what happens on the field. The System will fall if people stop watching the games.

Who knows? Maybe we should be pulling for BSU simply for the betterment of the game.

Let me guess, you're a Boise State/Ohio State/Duke/Yankees/Braves/Cowboys/Steelers/Penguins fan now? :slappy:
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1686920; said:
Whether or not Boise State wins the BcS championship is beside the point. The System isn't going to be overhauled because of what happens on the field. The System will fall if people stop watching the games.

This is very true. If only people found it worth their time to try and make things better...

...but aside from an absolute boycott (which has no real shot of happening) the people that complain about the way things are (such as myself) are just stuck complaining...

The sad fact of the matter is that the only people with any say are the talking heads that care about nothing more than the paychecks involved...
 
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BigWoof31;1686898; said:
2. The teams from our conference don't give a [censored] who we beat to win it all and we have no problem talking crap once we have the ring - so it shouldn't bother the buckeyes either!

Well, The Big Ten has always held itself to higher standards than the SEC.:biggrin: My point is that, fairly or unfairly, the SEC has become Ohio State's cross to bear. Until we beat them in the big game, we'll continue to carry that monkey on our back.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1686926; said:
Well, The Big Ten has always held itself to higher standards than the SEC.:biggrin: My point is that, fairly or unfairly, the SEC has become Ohio State's cross to bear. Until we beat them in the big game, we'll continue to carry that monkey on our back.

That's an awful way to talk about Ohio State. The media put that monkey on Ohio State's back...and because of that it's pretty easy for fans to support these guys no matter what.

I don't take the Rose Bowl win in any less esteem simply because it wasn't against an SEC team. We fought through the season, we won the games we needed to win and we beat a team we weren't supposed to beat in the Grandaddy of them all...

The SEC is nobody's "cross to bear", it's a conference in D-1 football. One whose collective of fans have given it an extremely bad (and well deserved) name.

You win the games you play and you can't ask for anything else.
 
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TheRob8801;1686922; said:
The sad fact of the matter is that the only people with any say are the talking heads that care about nothing more than the paychecks involved...

The people "with any say" are the college presidents and the conference commissioners, not the media members.

The talking heads are earning part of their paychecks by constantly bitching about the BCS because they believe that's the position of most fans. It's an easy story to write, or an easy opinion to express.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1686926; said:
Well, The Big Ten has always held itself to higher standards than the SEC.:biggrin: My point is that, fairly or unfairly, the SEC has become Ohio State's cross to bear. Until we beat them in the big game, we'll continue to carry that monkey on our back.


Understood - and thanks for the clarification.
 
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The one issue if BSU wins out and doesn't get in the NC game is a Congressional inquiry and President Obama. Sen. Hatch from Utah is trying to fry the BCS on trust busting precedents...

I will say the main thing that pisses me off about BSU and other pretenders is that they don't run a gauntlet like teams in the top 4 conferences. This does not just apply to the win and loss columns... it manifests itself in banged up players, injuries etc. that come from elite caliber players jacking each other up for 12 games.

Anyone can get up for one big home game like BSU does as well as a big OOC game like they are playing in Fedex... try doing it every week and their roster would be littered with injuries.
 
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