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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%
  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%
  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%
  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%
  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%
  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%
  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%
  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%
  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%

  • Total voters
    313
t_BuckeyeScott;1713658; said:
Really rooting for Colorado to join the Pac-10 soon, especially if the rumors about Nebraska, ND, and Missouri coming to Big 10 are true. Then the Big 12 as we know it is done. Baylor's stuck and everyone knows it. If Baylor's stuck how much of a stretch is Tech being stuck. Then Texas and A&M can leave those guys behind and come to the Big 10. This is even better if A&M wants to go to the SEC like the governor wants and we get BC instead. Gotta love the television footprint.

Well we'll know today, or atleast we'll know if Orangebloods.com actually has credible sources.
 
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woofermazing;1713664; said:
Well we'll know today, or atleast we'll know if Orangebloods.com actually has credible sources.

Living in Austin, I hope this crap ends soon. The local sport talk is all guys who work at Orangebloods, they think are Woodward and Bernstein on this subject.

I'd love for Texas and aTm to join the Big Ten, but man they are arrogant and IMHO the PAC 16 will be just as crappy as the PAC 10 & the Big 12 now. USC, OK, and UT will always be near the top, every once in a while you'll get someone else rising up. Probably could say the same for the Big 10. I hope it ends soon so they can get back to their man crush on Garret Gilbert and everyone else on the UT team which will go undefeated

sorry for the rant :osu:
 
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AuTX Buckeye;1713679; said:
IMHO the PAC 16 will be just as crappy as the PAC 10 & the Big 12 now.

I've had similar thoughts recently. I really don't know what the Pac-10 has to offer Texas. They don't get the Eastern time zone coverage that they crave, their academics are not uplifted, and it's a completely different culture.
 
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AuTX Buckeye;1713679; said:
Living in Austin, I hope this crap ends soon. The local sport talk is all guys who work at Orangebloods, they think are Woodward and Bernstein on this subject.

I'd love for Texas and aTm to join the Big Ten, but man they are arrogant and IMHO the PAC 16 will be just as crappy as the PAC 10 & the Big 12 now. USC, OK, and UT will always be near the top, every once in a while you'll get someone else rising up. Probably could say the same for the Big 10. I hope it ends soon so they can get back to their man crush on Garret Gilbert and everyone else on the UT team which will go undefeated

sorry for the rant :osu:

Being in Austin, what's your opinion on the whole "Tech Problem?" Is UT really being forced to take Tech and Baylor by the legislature against their will and would prefer to go somewhere by themselves or only with Aggy, or are they really manipulating the whole process so that they bring along a firm block of rubber stamp votes to support them in conference matters?
 
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AuTX, what do your longhorn friends think of expansion? I know the Texas boards used to prefer the B10 and now the P10, but I'm curious what the less-informed fan thinks of all of this. Message boarders don't reflect the average fan very accurately.

To me, the pac-10 will be about like the big 12, Texas, OU and some other teams who pop up occasionally unless USC can find a way to remain as dominant as the mid-00s under Petey.

LA fans do not support their team unless they are dominant. If USC becomes the Colorado or Nebraska of the Pac-16 - make the CCG frequently to lose - that stadium will be emptying in a hurry.
 
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jwinslow;1713690; said:
LA fans do not support their team unless they are dominant. If USC becomes the Colorado or Nebraska of the Pac-16 - make the CCG frequently to lose - that stadium will be emptying in a hurry.
They can always put up more giant cardboard cutouts of past player jerseys. They might consider adding a NCAA violator section.
 
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ghost of tibor;1713543; said:
How important is becoming a member of the CIC for some of these schools?

I read somewhere that is really helped out PSU

Committee on Institutional Cooperation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think it should be really important to any expansion candidate. Only a school like Texas would think they can do just as well on their own, and they'd still be stupid for it anyways. When Notre Dame got the offer to join the Big Ten in 1999, the faculty voted on joining the CIC with a resounding yes. They still wanted in the CIC after they alumni and fan base went bat[censored] crazy and they declined the Big Ten invite, but we said no.

It's a ton of money, the 12 schools together account for $6 billion in research revenue, no other league can comes close to that. There aren't many schools that compare to what all of ours average in research revenue. Member schools account for 15% of the PhD's awarded every year. I think CIC membership is far more valuable to any school and their state than the athletic money being discussed.

ORD_Buckeye;1713671; said:
Omaha paper says Friday announcement for Nebraska although I'm sure the leaks will only get louder if it's true.

Colorado is supposed to make a big announcement today also.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1092201
 
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The "Tech" issue is turning into the "Tech/Baylor" issue. Personally I don't think the legistlature is letting UT & A&M go anywhere without them, but stranger things have happened. To much revenue to be lost for the state (I think we have a 18 Billion dollar shortfall, on the plus side still no state income tax).

The alumni bases and fans from UT and A&M would prefer to dump them. As far as the local fans go, they seem not to care as long as they put the screws to the BIG 12/OK/anyone else to get more money. I think they would be more excited about going to LA and the west coast for a while, but that would wear out and I don't think there alumni bases are big there. It honestly seems to me Texas doesn't want to move, they like being the biggest fish in a small pond. They want to keep bullying the BIG 12 into giving them a bigger share of the revenue.

Caveat I don't have a whole host of UT friends, this place is a melting pot because of all the tech companies.

Jwinslow - I agree completely PAC 16 will be just as weak as the PAC 10 & BIG 12, They wont be able to get any more money from TV because they don't have anything inside the Eastern (god's time as a friend once called it) timezone. The guys on the radio keep mention UCLA,Standford, Cal, Washington, as being on the rise, but like you said, West Coast fans are more fickle than anyone, they only support winners, if you aint winning then we're headed to the beach or to hug a tree somewhere.

I've kinda stopped listening to the sport talk here because of alot of this... i'll try to keep listening to see what else they have to say... incase your interested the website is ESPN Austin

I will give the local guys some credit, they do occasionally mention the academic side of this, which I have to believe will play a bigger role than anyone is saying... I'm not quite sure how the Big Ten and the Pac 10 stack up as far as rankings and research money goes.
 
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Rob Harley says:

Source: #BigTen has extended an offer to Nebraska, hold on tight...
Source: #Mizzou trustees to meet Friday...the dominoes are falling

And FSN Ohio says:

After a weekend of denials and hushed discussions, the Big Ten will expand to 12 teams as early as Friday. Reports are emerging that the Nebraska Cornhuskers will become the 12th team in the league.

The Big Ten has officially offered an invitation to Nebraska.

Over the weekend, the Big 12 Conference demanded a loyalty pledge from all of its' members, and only 9 teams complied. Two of the three holdouts, Nebraska and Missouri, were given until this Friday to decide if they wanted to stay in the league, and the ultimatum has apparently pushed the Huskers into the Big 10.


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