Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[AuTX Buckeye]

According to Woodward and Bernstein (orangebloods) Orangebloods.com - Are we in the final countdown of the Big 12? Nebraska hasn't gotten an offer yet as far as the Big 12 officials know.

 

[t_BuckeyeScott]

Conference Expansion: Big Ten May (Temporarily) Stop With Nebraska - BC Interruption

Starting to look like this is all that happens in terms of the Big Ten this summer. We pick up Nebraska, Colorado bolts to the Pac-10 with Utah. Big XII reloads with Air Force and BYU (so long as 6 teams don't bolt).

Then again, if the Pac-10 gets zany we could be in for a conference realignment apocalypse.

So what then do you all think?
Are we talking Nebraska to the Big 10. Colorado to the Pac 10 and then Big 12 fills in? Relativley minor.

Or

Big 12 gets destroyed by some combination of Big 10/Pac10/SEC/ACC raiding teams leaving the Big 12 and the Big East shells of conferences?

 

[t_BuckeyeScott]

I want to say fine... send A&M to the SEC because that should mean the end of the Texas 4. However I am nervous as all get out that idiots like Perry would want Texas to the SEC, too, for athletic reasons and forget about the impact of research and funding which means more financially and for reputation as a university than athletics can ever mean.

At this point I am wishing the Texas 4 or 3 go to the Pac 10 just to freeze the SEC from having a chance at Texas.

Don't think UT's president is that dumb.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

According to Woodward and Bernstein (orangebloods) Orangebloods.com - Are we in the final countdown of the Big 12? Nebraska hasn't gotten an offer yet as far as the Big 12 officials know.

Two most interesting parts of this to me were:

BAYLOR'S FIGHT FACING RESISTANCE?

Since that report legislators and lobbyists with loyalty to Baylor have launched an all-out effort in the Texas Legislature to ensure that Baylor remains with the rest of the Big 12 South if it were to move to the Pac-10.

One top source close to the possible merger between the Pac-10 and six Big 12 schools said some schools in the Pac-10, including California-Berkeley, have a real issue with adding an institution with religious ties like Baylor to the conference.

and

TEXAS AND TEXAS A&M MEET THURSDAY

In a related development, a legislative source with knowledge of Texas A&M said officials from A&M and Texas will meet on Thursday to discuss all the goings on and to make sure they are on the same page if the Big 12 falls apart. The source said, however, that Texas and Texas A&M remain steadfast in lobbying for the Big 12 to stay together.

Just a handful of questions off the top of my head:

1. What would happen if Neb and Mizzou bolt, but Pac10 denies Baylor?
2. Does a scenario like #1 give UT leverage to go it alone? and
3. Does that have any influence on possible aTm / SEC talks?
4. Do B10 / UT talks pick back up a possible dissolution of the Texas bloc...

of course all of these rest on a cart that is WELL before the horse, but fun to think about...

 

[PlanetFrnd]

I want to say fine... send A&M to the SEC because that should mean the end of the Texas 4. However I am nervous as all get out that idiots like Perry would want Texas to the SEC, too, for athletic reasons and forget about the impact of research and funding which means more financially and for reputation as a university than athletics can ever mean.

At this point I am wishing the Texas 4 or 3 go to the Pac 10 just to freeze the SEC from having a chance at Texas.

Texas will not be going to the SEC.

 

[Dryden]

Starting to look like this is all that happens in terms of the Big Ten this summer. We pick up Nebraska, Colorado bolts to the Pac-10 with Utah. Big XII reloads with Air Force and BYU (so long as 6 teams don't bolt).

If the Big XII winds up not collapsing and having to search for two more teams, 100-gazillion vBucks says the Texas state legislature rattles its sabers and gets Houston and TCU in. Boom. Longhorn network.

The SWC is like the Terminator-2000 in Terminator 2.

 

[Dryden]

As mentioned last night, Hawk-Love not gettin' it done. CU football falls below the 925 APR threshold [PDF] as predicted and loses 4 scholarships. Wonder how the Pac-10 feels about that, not to mention the NCAA hammer allegedly coming down on SC tomorrow.

 

[kn1f3party]

If the Big XII winds up not collapsing and having to search for two more teams, 100-gazillion vBucks says the Texas state legislature rattles its sabers and gets Houston and TCU in. Boom. Longhorn network.

The SWC is like the Terminator-2000 in Terminator 2.

I don't see anyone outside of Texas supporting that, but it may not matter.

 

[starBUCKS]

From Joe Schad...
"I'm told Big Ten likes: 1) Notre Dame, 2) Nebraska then 3) Rutgers and/or Maryland"



Also, on Orangeblood earlier, they said if Nebraska leaves, the exodus happens... but if Colorado and Missouri leave and Nebraska stays, they'll replace them with the possibilites of Air Force and Utah, and Big XII carries on. That's some power on Nebraska's part.

 

[t_BuckeyeScott]

From Joe Schad...
"I'm told Big Ten likes: 1) Notre Dame, 2) Nebraska then 3) Rutgers and/or Maryland"



Also, on Orangeblood earlier, they said if Nebraska leaves, the exodus happens... but if Colorado and Missouri leave and Nebraska stays, they'll replace them with the possibilites of Air Force and Utah, and Big XII carries on. That's some power on Nebraska's part.

Link to that particular Orangeblood, please.

 

[kn1f3party]

From Joe Schad...
"I'm told Big Ten likes: 1) Notre Dame, 2) Nebraska then 3) Rutgers and/or Maryland"



Also, on Orangeblood earlier, they said if Nebraska leaves, the exodus happens... but if Colorado and Missouri leave and Nebraska stays, they'll replace them with the possibilites of Air Force and Utah, and Big XII carries on. That's some power on Nebraska's part.

I don't doubt they will try to blame the Big XII exodus on Nebraska should they join the Big Ten. However, I think that is a little unfair. The reason it would decimate the conference is there is nobody else in the Big XII North division. No matter how you slice this, Beebe is probably going to be the scapegoat.

All of this seems plausible, but rumors of Nebraska making an announcement regarding an imminent move to the Big Ten are going from warm to hot.

So... did we give up on Notre Dame, are we trying to change the way we play this, or did they outright turn us down with an unequivocal and resounding "no" for the last time.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

To be honest I feel a little dirty driving traffic to these yahoos (orangebloods).. but oh well at least its not scUM's site :)

 

[starBUCKS]

Link to that particular Orangeblood, please.

Only because you said please :)

Orangebloods.com - Are we in the final countdown of the Big 12?

A high-level executive at a Big 12 institution said there have been informal conversations about who to add to the Big 12 if schools start to leave. Those schools have included BYU and Air Force.

But that same executive as well as others in the Big 12 South have told Orangebloods.com the conference will not survive if Nebraska leaves - no matter who else stays or goes.

If Nebraska were to stay in the Big 12 and Missouri and Colorado were to leave, for example, the sense is the Big 12 could attempt to add schools like BYU and Air Force to the Big 12 North and move ahead.

 

[OSU_D/]

From Joe Schad...
"I'm told Big Ten likes: 1) Notre Dame, 2) Nebraska then 3) Rutgers and/or Maryland"

Yes, yes and yes for 3B!!!

 

[starBUCKS]

Per Chip Brown's Twitter (Orangeblood)

"Nebraska regents have informally agreed to leave for the Big Ten. A formal announcement will come Friday."

"Orangebloods.com: Several officials in the Big 12 South have said if Nebraska leaves the conference, the Big 12 is dead. "