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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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LovelandBuckeye said:
I assume so. Didn't Virginia and North Carolina do something similar years ago with VA Tech and NC State if UVA or UNC were gobbled up?
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I don't know about North Carolina and North Carolina State - they've both been in the ACC for as long as I've cared to follow sports.
But the story we were fed in about 2004 was that the ACC was stealing some teams from the Big East, and Virginia was going to vote against it because Virginia Tech was not included. They thought the move would kill the Big East, including Virginia Tech. The ACC decided that they would also take Virginia Tech, and Virginia chose to not vote against the expansion.

I wonder if the SEC works the same way. No one school can block the expansion, on the surface. Of course, there can be some back-room agreements made to block the expansion. The ACC needed a 75% vote to accept the expansion back then. With 9 teams, they needed 7 "yes" votes. And Duke and North Carolina were going to vote to stay at 9, which is best for basketball. So Virginia's vote was important. But, assuming no back-room dealings, would other SEC teams have an interest in not taking Florida State? Or is Florida enough to keep Florida State out?
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
Agree. They and Clemson need to figure out how to make people outside their hillbilly havens guve a shit to pony up money. However, they are football schools stuck in a Big East type of conference. And, the SEC already has the flagship schools for both states. The ACC better bring in ND or they will become the Big East.
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The fun part of this is if NoD didn't have their noses completely up their own asses, they'd be on the phone to whoever is answering them in the Big Ten to get in, now, before Washington, Oregon and Stanford beat them to the punch.

But they won't. So, fuck 'em.
 
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Mike80 said:
Honestly that showing up now is a real prime indicator about how the PAC-12 TV deals are shaping up.
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I wonder how much being in the pacific time zone reduces the value of their programming? It's bad enough that their two premier football teams are leaving, but on top of that, who want's to stay up until 1:00 AM watching the teams that are left play each other?
 
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Mike80 said:
Oh shit....



Tick Tock, Domers....Tick Tock....
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theathletic.com

What we're hearing on the Big 12/Pac-12 power struggle

Brett Yormark has eyed westward expansion since the day he was hired as the Big 12’s new commissioner last summer.
theathletic.com theathletic.com

Big 12 looking west, Pac-12 looking for a TV deal: What we’re hearing on realignment​


By Max Olson and Stewart Mandel 3h ago

Last July, weeks after USC and UCLA’s stunning Big Ten announcement, Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff made a bold realignment prediction: “No Pac-12 school is going to the Big 12.”

Eight months later, we may finally learn whether his confidence was justified or false bravado.

Kliavkoff is facing pressure to deliver a new media rights deal to his members by the end of the month. If the dollar figures or the details are underwhelming, March may be the moment when the Big 12 finally strikes. Sources briefed on the discussions say the conference has been in recent contact with the so-called Four Corners schools — Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah — which has renewed optimism that convincing them to join is possible.

Brett Yormark has eyed westward expansion since the day he was hired as the Big 12’s new commissioner last summer. Yormark has never been shy about his interest in expanding the Big 12 into the “fourth time zone” to establish a truly national conference and boost the value of his league’s media rights. The arrival of BYU this summer will get the Big 12 into the Mountain Time Zone. Yormark wants more, though he has always said any additions need to be additive and not dilutive.

“I don’t think any of us are trying to dismantle the Pac-12,” Baylor athletic director Mack Rhoades told SicEm365 on Tuesday. “If there’s opportunity, and whenever their TV media deal comes to fruition and if those institutions decide that it’s not good for them, then the Big 12 will be ready. And that probably is as simple as I can say it.”

Cont'd ...
 
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CincyInterloper said:
I wonder how much being in the pacific time zone reduces the value of their programming? It's bad enough that their two premier football teams are leaving, but on top of that, who want's to stay up until 1:00 AM watching the teams that are left play each other?
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PAC after Dark is great, and no slander will be tolerated. Now we have 4 opportunities for B1G after Dark?!! Sign me up.
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
Fuck 'em. They can remain in their shit stained bed they made. Join the ACC or fade away into obscurity.
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Unfortunately, I think the new playoff format guarantees their continued relevance. The ACC will always take in their basketball and other sports. Why? I don't fucking know why, but they will. Hell, for some inexplicable reason, we do it for their hockey program, and if the writing becomes apparent that the door is finally closed on the dream of ever luring them into the B1G, I would hope the conference launches that fucking hockey program into the sun.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Unfortunately, I think the new playoff format guarantees their continued relevance. The ACC will always take in their basketball and other sports. Why? I don't fucking know why, but they will. Hell, for some inexplicable reason, we do it for their hockey program, and if the writing becomes apparent that the door is finally closed on the dream of ever luring them into the B1G, I would hope the conference launches that fucking hockey program into the sun.
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The ACC will be no longer be relevant once their GOR runs out. They are dead man walking. I mean I guess UNC, VA could decide to stay and go all in on basketball and be the football equivalent of the new Big XII but their athletic departments will grumble about making way less money then SEC B1G then.

Either way FSU and Clemson are gone as long as one of the B1G 2 are willing to take them
 
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