Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[CincyInterloper]

OSU status as a top research university provides significant economic benefits to the state. I can’t say that the $20 billion semiconductor plant outside Columbus is being built there because of its proximity to OSU, but the $20 billion semiconductor plant outside Columbus is being built there because of its proximity to OSU.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Yikes!!!

 

[kujirakira]

1. Agreed.
2. Agreed. What is it with the Big Ten and trying to tie Penn State to Ohio State?
3. The only thing I can think of this is that Purdue does have the best winning percentage against Ohio State this century (among Big Ten teams). But otherwise... I agree: WUT??

If they do this "right", they'd tie each team to a boof team, a medium team, and a "good-ish" team.
Also, welcome to the Big Ten, USC and UCLA. Enjoy your trips to East Lansing and Champaign, Illinois.

Since joining PSU has considered us and scUM as their rivals. Their schedule is invariably split Home-Away, and until last year the H has almost always been the White Out.

Now they're ditching scUM and adding Rutgers and Maryland.
And scUM is replacing them with Indiana.
Hmmmm.
I'm just surprised B1G didn't try to stick us with Nebraska, as often as we've played them since joining.

 

[kujirakira]

Yeah. Cable subscribers due to geography bring in Big Ten Network money, and Tallahassee isn't the huge/desirable market that conference wants like Rutgers and Maryland. That wasn't lost on me

But the big money is the media contracts ($7 billion over 7 years)

Those contracts are built on the backs of big games that drive eyeballs, viewership, and prime time slots. Florida State ticks that box (#1 viewership in ACC). Clemson ticks that box (#2 viewership in ACC). Oregon & Washington tick those boxes (the top 2 viewership schools left in the PAC 12 after USC & UCLA leave). And all four of those schools are unhappy with the media contracts that they are in the process of finalizing right now

Maybe I'm just done with the "holier than thou" academic attitude, but give me some good fucking football games. That's where my heads at

UW and Oregon would fit right in and bring big tv markets with them. Along with providing our new victims a friends and family coping group.

Additionally, can we a force a rivalry between Under Armour and Nike?

 

[BuckTwenty]

I'm good with not taking Florida State. But at the same time, taking Nebraska didn't hurt the Big Ten or its reputation

I'd still take Clemson in a heartbeat. And I'd take North Carolina with them as a replacement for Florida State. Would be a big shot across the bow of the SEC to boot, invading the south

 

[Zurp]

I'm just surprised B1G didn't try to stick us with Nebraska, as often as we've played them since joining.

The old system of scheduling had us (Ohio State) paired with Nebraska for 6 years. That 6 years was supposed to run out sometime. Last year? The year before? I forget when. But we were supposed to be paired with another Big Ten West team for 6 years. We'd still play Nebraska twice (once home, once away) over those next 6 years.

 

[dragurd]

The old system of scheduling had us (Ohio State) paired with Nebraska for 6 years. That 6 years was supposed to run out sometime. Last year? The year before? I forget when. But we were supposed to be paired with another Big Ten West team for 6 years. We'd still play Nebraska twice (once home, once away) over those next 6 years.

Replaced by Wisconsin was the original plan. But with USC and UCLA joining we'll see how that goes

 

[ScriptOhio]

Yikes!!!

Florida State Board of Trustees request buyout figure to leave ACC, staggering number returns

The idea of Florida State leaving the ACC first came up during a board of trustees meeting on Friday where Alford was asked about it.

www.on3.com

Florida State AD Michael Alford, Board of Trustees discuss ACC media rights, potential buyout options​

At a Florida State University Board of Trustees meeting on Friday, Seminoless athletic director Michael Alford was posed an interesting question, according to Matt Baker of the Tampa Bay Times. The question: How much money would it cost Florida State to leave the ACC?

The answer, provided by the university’s legal counsel, is that it would cost Florida State somewhere in the neighborhood of $120 million to bail from the ACC and the league’s current media-rights deal. The backdrop for the question was a discussion about the ACC’s current model of equal revenue distribution.

As it currently stands, Alford said, Florida State creates about 15% of the revenue for the conference but only gets a return of 7%. This has led to a resource gap.

“At the end of the day, if something’s not done, we cannot be $30 million behind every year compared to our peers,” Alford said.

Baker reported that a trustee asked roughly the following question: “So if we make up the $30 million we’re behind from our peers … we’d break even in roughly four years?”

Alford responded that hypothetically, yes, that would be the the case. That means that if Florida State were to pay $120 million (or so) to get to a league that would offer significantly more under its media-rights deal, it would take at least four years to make up what was spent.

Just wonderin': Like what other major conference (i.e. B1G or SEC) would actually want Free Shoes U?

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Just wonderin': Like what other major conference (i.e. B1G or SEC) would actually want Free Shoes U?

Big XII comes to mind.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Big XII comes to mind.

Yeah, that certainly could work. SEC seems like a natural fit, but will UF accept them? Also, since they're on the record as wanting to be a Texas style cancer with unequal revenue sharing, is that a poison pill to the SEC? I still think that fsu and Clemson find their way to the SEC eventually.

 

[Woody1968]

Big XII comes to mind.

I don't think they would earn more in the Big XII though, seems like the pot would be even smaller there. In terms of B1G revenue sharing, and not counting Notre Dame, FSU is probably the only school that would still either increase revenue on a per school basis, or at least maintain the current level. It's the cultural fit/academics that is the main obstacle.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

I don't think they would earn more in the Big XII though

Agree. They and Clemson need to figure out how to make people outside their hillbilly havens guve a shit to pony up money. However, they are football schools stuck in a Big East type of conference. And, the SEC already has the flagship schools for both states. The ACC better bring in ND or they will become the Big East.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I don't think they would earn more in the Big XII though, seems like the pot would be even smaller there. In terms of B1G revenue sharing, and not counting Notre Dame, FSU is probably the only school that would still either increase revenue on a per school basis, or at least maintain the current level. It's the cultural fit/academics that is the main obstacle.

Culture, academics and the B1G ego in not wanting to take a clear #2 school in a state. I just don't see the B1G Presidents willing to swallow all of that combined. They already ran off one commissioner for wanting to rush expansion (and that was probably with UW and Oregon who are very good fits). SEC is a perfect fit in every way provided Florida can't block it. It also pays back that $120M much more quickly than the B12 ever could.

 

[CincyInterloper]

Since Florida and Florida State are both part of the State University System of Florida, is there any chance the Florida Board of Governors would step in and tell Florida that they are not going to object to Florida State entering the SEC?

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Since Florida and Florida State are both part of the State University System of Florida, is there any chance the Florida Board of Governors would step in and tell Florida that they are not going to object to Florida State entering the SEC?

I assume so. Didn't Virginia and North Carolina do something similar years ago with VA Tech and NC State if UVA or UNC were gobbled up?