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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%
  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%
  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%
  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%
  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%
  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%
  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%
  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%
  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%

  • Total voters
    313
Programs that currently compete for national championships (leaving out non-ncaa sports):

*Football
Men's Hockey
*Women's Hockey
Women's Basketball
*Fencing
*Wrestling
Tennis
Lacrosse
*Men's Volleyball
*Women's Rowing

*won one recently (throw in runner ups for tennis and lacrosse and a frozen four for men's hockey)
(I'm leaving soccer out because that runner-up year seems to have been an aberration, and the program never really built off it)

Sports that were once national powerhouses, but will probably never be again due to the cold weather-warm weather divide:

Track & Field
Swimming & Diving
Golf (technically not a sport)
Baseball
 
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Ohio State's "Rivals"

1. The only right answer.
2. Not a rival
3. Wut!

1. Agreed.
2. Agreed. What is it with the Big Ten and trying to tie Penn State to Ohio State?
3. The only thing I can think of this is that Purdue does have the best winning percentage against Ohio State this century (among Big Ten teams). But otherwise... I agree: WUT??

If they do this "right", they'd tie each team to a boof team, a medium team, and a "good-ish" team.
Also, welcome to the Big Ten, USC and UCLA. Enjoy your trips to East Lansing and Champaign, Illinois.
 
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Purdue is fine because we need one easy layup in the group. Other than that, get rid of the pedsters and give us one of the LA teams. We built this fucking league, and we deserve regular trips out West. And I think the B1G's network partners are going to say the same god damned thing.
Agreed.
USC/UCLA need some attendance boost.
I would replace PSU-OSU with UCLA-OSU and PSU-USC.
 
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1. Agreed.
2. Agreed. What is it with the Big Ten and trying to tie Penn State to Ohio State?
3. The only thing I can think of this is that Purdue does have the best winning percentage against Ohio State this century (among Big Ten teams). But otherwise... I agree: WUT??

If they do this "right", they'd tie each team to a boof team, a medium team, and a "good-ish" team.
Also, welcome to the Big Ten, USC and UCLA. Enjoy your trips to East Lansing and Champaign, Illinois.
... and Northwestern in November!
 
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For attendance, the over 45K in Cleveland Saturday probably cliches that debate.

Regarding the “ability to win an NC” part, men’s hockey has had some chances to make a run the last few years, but I think there are a few sports more likely to win one: men’s tennis was ranked #1 last week and has won indoor titles but not yet the NCAA-recognized outdoor event; and (as I’m sure you know) women‘s hockey won the NC last year and are currently #1 in Pairwise.

And these other sports have actually won an NC in the last 10 seasons: wrestling (2015), men’s volleyball (2016 & ‘17), women’s rowing (2013, ‘14, & ‘15), co-ed fencing (2012), women’s and co-ed pistol (both have 7 NCs including 2021 and ‘22, but aren‘t fully recognized NCAA events), and synchronized swimming (33 NCs including 2022: but also not a fully recognized NCAA event).

And as long as I’m on the topic, these sports also won NCs ‘back in the day‘, but don't have a realistic shot at another one any time soon: Golf, Men’s gymnastics, Men’s outdoor track, and Men’s swimming and diving (11 times, last one in 1962).
It only takes 4 or 5 top athletes to have a shot at a track NC. It you have a Chris Nelloms or Jesse Owens who can guarantee 2 or 3 firsts and others who can guarantee a couple of firsts or seconds - 1936 Bucks Owens won 100 dash, 220 dash, 220 hurdles, and long jump. Charlies Beethman won the 880, Dave Albritton and Mel Walker tied for first in the high jump. Bucks ended up second with 74 points

USU won by getting a ton of top ten finishes in everything. Depth over stars.

OK, the ol' track coach in me takes over. Look at these performances - think cinder track, thick leather shoes, think wool singlets, think using a garden spade to dig your starting blocks. think of the state of nutrition and weight training in the Depression years.

100-meter dash
1. Jesse Owens, Ohio State - 10.2 seconds (new world record)
2. Foy Draper, USC
3. Sam Stoller, Michigan
4. Adrian Talley, USC
5. Harvey Wallender, Texas
6. George Boone, USC

200-meter dash
1. Jesse Owens, Ohio State - 21.3 seconds
2. Harvey Wallender, Texas
3. Foy Draper, USC
4. Jack Weiershauser, Stanford
5. Herschel Neil, Northwest (Missouri) State Teachers
6. Clark Crane, USC

220-yard low hurdles
1. Jesse Owens, Ohio State - 23.1 seconds
2. Don Elser, Notre Dame
3. Ben Willis, Kentucky
4. Jack Patterson, Rice
5. Dick Kearns, Colorado
6. Leland Lafond, USC



400-meter run
1. Archie Williams, California - 47.0 seconds

800-meter run
1. Charles Beetham, Ohio State - 1:53.0
2. Ross Bush, USC
3. Marmaduke Hobbs, Indiana
4. Joe McGrath, Notre Dame
5. George O'Brien, Ohio State
6. Louis Brothers, Rice

Field events​

Broad jump
1. Jesse Owens, Ohio State - 25 feet, 10+7⁄8 inches
2. Kermit King, Pittsburg (Kansas) State Teachers
3. George Boone, USC
4. Donald Skinner, USC
5. Clark Crane, USC
6. Richard Brunton, Illinois

High jump
1. Dave Albritton, Ohio State - 6 feet, 6+1⁄8 inches
1. Mel Walker, Ohio State - 6 feet, 6+1⁄8 inches
3. Al Threadgill, Temple
 
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