Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[OHSportsFan]

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Throw some of the PAC cheerleaders in the deal and I’m subscribing.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Throw some of the PAC cheerleaders in the deal and I’m subscribing.

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[sparcboxbuck]

Like everything about Cincy, things are about 60 years behind the times, so it makes sense that baseball culture is still thriving there.

Wowza… but 100%.

 

[gmen6981]

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Screw you with a nail encrusted dildo for making me see that on a Friday afternoon! Now I need eye bleach.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Just a random Tweet I saw about high school talent per capita. Not sure how true it is but...Special Powers.

What would be interesting to me is that among all that MLB talent coming out of Cincy and particularly those that take the college route, what percent choose to attend Ohio State or any other cold weather school.

 

[cincibuck]

What would be interesting to me is that among all that MLB talent coming out of Cincy and particularly those that take the college route, what percent choose to attend Ohio State or any other cold weather school.

Steve Arlin signed with the Padres after leading the bucks to their one and only NCAA baseball natty in 1966. Alas, born in Seattle.

Cincinnati Moeller: 1. Ken Griffey Jr. went straight to Mariner's AA team. Younger brother Craig went to Ohio State for football. 2. Barry Larkin picked Michigan. His younger brother picked Texas. 3. Buddy Bell went straight to Indians AA team 4. David Bell went to AA ball 5. Adam Hyzdu went to AA 6. Andrew Brackman went to NCSU and played both basketball and baseball, then signed with the Yanks. 7. Bill Long went to Miami and later signed with the Cubs 8. Mike Bell signed right out of high school but never made it to the bigs. 9. Len Matuzak signed right out of school and had a 7 year stay in the bigs 10. Eric Surkamp signed right out of high School in 05 and is still with the A's. 11. Cameron Junker went to Notre Dame and signed after his senior year there.

2. Pete Rose and Joe Nuxall both signed with the Reds while in high school. Dave Parker signed with the Pirates right out of high school. Chris Niching went from Elder to Northwestern and then signed and had a 7 year stay in the bigs.

The big change seems to have been going on to college instead of straight to AAA or AA. ACC has recruited here, but so have local college programs, just not Ohio State.

 

[cincibuck]

I'm wondering if, after a few years of high cost travel for non-revenue sports, USC and UCLA don't try and work out a sweetheart deal much like ND, in the Big Ten only for football and mens basketball and in the PAC for all other sports.

Frankly, the only sport where I see this paying off for those two schools is football. The travel schedule is gonna be a killer for basketball and academics.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Steve Arlin signed with the Padres after leading the bucks to their one and only NCAA baseball natty in 1966. Alas, born in Seattle.

Cincinnati Moeller: 1. Ken Griffey Jr. went straight to Mariner's AA team. Younger brother Craig went to Ohio State for football. 2. Barry Larkin picked Michigan. His younger brother picked Texas. 3. Buddy Bell went straight to Indians AA team 4. David Bell went to AA ball 5. Adam Hyzdu went to AA 6. Andrew Brackman went to NCSU and played both basketball and baseball, then signed with the Yanks. 7. Bill Long went to Miami and later signed with the Cubs 8. Mike Bell signed right out of high school but never made it to the bigs. 9. Len Matuzak signed right out of school and had a 7 year stay in the bigs 10. Eric Surkamp signed right out of high School in 05 and is still with the A's. 11. Cameron Junker went to Notre Dame and signed after his senior year there.

2. Pete Rose and Joe Nuxall both signed with the Reds while in high school. Dave Parker signed with the Pirates right out of high school. Chris Niching went from Elder to Northwestern and then signed and had a 7 year stay in the bigs.

The big change seems to have been going on to college instead of straight to AAA or AA. ACC has recruited here, but so have local college programs, just not Ohio State.

That's ancient history. What are top prospects doing now? I'm thinking they're going warm weather as fast as they can. I've been shouted down by baseball fanboys saying baseball will always be more popular than hockey at Ohio State, but is it? Baseball has a snowball's chance in hell of ever being a national championship contender, yet hockey can win an NC and has been in the hunt the last half dozen years. Also, average hockey attendance at Ohio State triples average baseball attendance in good years (7500) and still doubles it (4500) in bad years. Also, several men's hockey games are on espn every year. How many baseball games make the big channel?

Ohio State is first and foremost a football school (only an idiot would argue otherwise) and secondarily a men's basketball school. That being said, I think from both terms of attendance and ability to win an NC, men's hockey is clearly the #3 sport at Ohio State.

 

[dragurd]

I'm wondering if, after a few years of high cost travel for non-revenue sports, USC and UCLA don't try and work out a sweetheart deal much like ND, in the Big Ten only for football and mens basketball and in the PAC for all other sports.

Frankly, the only sport where I see this paying off for those two schools is football. The travel schedule is gonna be a killer for basketball and academics.

Nope. Pac is practically dead and there are a lot of hurt feelings there. They will probably just lobby for Stanford, Washington, Oregon.

 

[Bestbuck36]

That's ancient history. What are top prospects doing now? I'm thinking they're going warm weather as fast as they can. I've been shouted down by baseball fanboys saying baseball will always be more popular than hockey at Ohio State, but is it? Baseball has a snowball's chance in hell of ever being a national championship contender, yet hockey can win an NC and has been in the hunt the last half dozen years. Also, average hockey attendance at Ohio State triples average baseball attendance in good years (7500) and still doubles it (4500) in bad years. Also, several men's hockey games are on espn every year. How many baseball games make the big channel?

Ohio State is first and foremost a football school (only an idiot would argue otherwise) and secondarily a men's basketball school. That being said, I think from both terms of attendance and ability to win an NC, men's hockey is clearly the #3 sport at Ohio State.

You're certainly right over the last decade for sure. Hence, the "Fire Beals" nonstop around here. The hope is that the new guy comes in and kicks ass and it starts trending better. The new hockey rink is going to be brilliant so I'm guessing that popularity is only going to get better. I personally can't wait to get back to town and start going to every sporting event I can make and what sport it is I wont care as long as the scarlet and gray are involved.

Honestly, and you already know this, the Ohio State University is big enough and popular enough to be great at every sport if the right people are piloting the ship.

 

[Thump]

That's ancient history. What are top prospects doing now? I'm thinking they're going warm weather as fast as they can. I've been shouted down by baseball fanboys saying baseball will always be more popular than hockey at Ohio State, but is it? Baseball has a snowball's chance in hell of ever being a national championship contender, yet hockey can win an NC and has been in the hunt the last half dozen years. Also, average hockey attendance at Ohio State triples average baseball attendance in good years (7500) and still doubles it (4500) in bad years. Also, several men's hockey games are on espn every year. How many baseball games make the big channel?

Ohio State is first and foremost a football school (only an idiot would argue otherwise) and secondarily a men's basketball school. That being said, I think from both terms of attendance and ability to win an NC, men's hockey is clearly the #3 sport at Ohio State.

Warm-weather although the Miller kid from Liberty Union who was drafted in the 2nd round had committed to Louisville but signed with the Marlins.

This year’s top player from John Glenn, Colt Emerson, is committed to Auburn and has been since around his sophomore year.

 

[Thump]

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[BB73]

Ohio State is first and foremost a football school (only an idiot would argue otherwise) and secondarily a men's basketball school. That being said, I think from both terms of attendance and ability to win an NC, men's hockey is clearly the #3 sport at Ohio State.

For attendance, the over 45K in Cleveland Saturday probably cliches that debate.

Regarding the “ability to win an NC” part, men’s hockey has had some chances to make a run the last few years, but I think there are a few sports more likely to win one: men’s tennis was ranked #1 last week and has won indoor titles but not yet the NCAA-recognized outdoor event; and (as I’m sure you know) women‘s hockey won the NC last year and are currently #1 in Pairwise.

And these other sports have actually won an NC in the last 10 seasons: wrestling (2015), men’s volleyball (2016 & ‘17), women’s rowing (2013, ‘14, & ‘15), co-ed fencing (2012), women’s and co-ed pistol (both have 7 NCs including 2021 and ‘22, but aren‘t fully recognized NCAA events), and synchronized swimming (33 NCs including 2022: but also not a fully recognized NCAA event).

And as long as I’m on the topic, these sports also won NCs ‘back in the day‘, but don't have a realistic shot at another one any time soon: Golf, Men’s gymnastics, Men’s outdoor track, and Men’s swimming and diving (11 times, last one in 1962).

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

For attendance, the over 45K in Cleveland Saturday probably cliches that debate.

Regarding the “ability to win an NC” part, men’s hockey has had some chances to make a run the last few years, but I think there are a few sports more likely to win one: men’s tennis was ranked #1 last week and has won indoor titles but not yet the NCAA-recognized outdoor event; and (as I’m sure you know) women‘s hockey won the NC last year and are currently #1 in Pairwise.

And these other sports have actually won an NC in the last 10 seasons: wrestling (2015), men’s volleyball (2016 & ‘17), women’s rowing (2013, ‘14, & ‘15), co-ed fencing (2012), women’s and co-ed pistol (both have 7 NCs including 2021 and ‘22, but aren‘t fully recognized NCAA events), and synchronized swimming (33 NCs including 2022: but also not a fully recognized NCAA event).

And as long as I’m on the topic, these sports also won NCs ‘back in the day‘, but don't have a realistic shot at another one any time soon: Golf, Men’s gymnastics, Men’s outdoor track, and Men’s swimming and diving (11 times, last one in 1962).

True. I'm limiting it to the big four American sports: football, men's basketball, men's hockey and baseball. There are about eight programs right now that can make a realistic run at an NC. No reason that gymnastics can't come back. Track & Field and Swiming & Diving though are relegated to history like baseball.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Men's futbol had a decent run around 2007 if I remember correctly. I wonder if the southern schools would pull soccer talent if they actually fielded teams like they do for baseball.