Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[ORD_Buckeye]

You know the domers are going to push for their special treatment, get turned down and then hold a press conference where the priests come out and say they turned us down for cultural and academic reasons. Warren's follow up press conference should be unspoken and simply be him coming out to the dais and doing this and then turning around and walking away:

 

[gmen6981]

I fear the recruiting benefit to TSUN with the B16 having a stronger footprint in New England.

BC doesn't have first dibs on those ritzy New England prep schools?

 

[sparcboxbuck]

1. Fuck Notre Dame
2. Grab UNC and UVA if available
3. Grab UW and Nike Ducks to assist the noobs in Cali.
4. Tell Notre Dame to fuck off to the SEC
5. As others said, grab BC if UNC wants to play the "Bless your hearts, we are southern men" bullshit.
6. Allow Notre Dame to join the Big 12 while never scheduling them again for any B1G team...EVER!

Your lips to God’s ears.

 

[colobuck79]

1. Fuck Notre Dame
2. Grab UNC and UVA if available
3. Grab UW and Nike Ducks to assist the noobs in Cali.
4. Tell Notre Dame to fuck off to the SEC
5. As others said, grab BC if UNC wants to play the "Bless your hearts, we are southern men" bullshit.
6. Allow Notre Dame to join the Big 12 while never scheduling them again for any B1G team...EVER!

7. Fuck Notre Dame

 

[cincibuck]

The game with ND happens on day 50

Announcing it after you got your teeth kicked in would be awesome, ND. You should do that. Might be smarter to announce it about two days before the game though. That’d give the game a little more media attention.

Or we could just leave them twisting in the wind, dangling there without a chair when the music stops

Or put them in a cherry picker on a day with 40 MPH winds and gusts up to 60.

 

[cincibuck]

Isn't ND's leverage tied to the on-going TV contract negotiations?
They're the only school on the table which could potentially increase the $/school.
Any other school would likely need to go the Nebraska/Maryland/Rutgers route of reduced revenue for a number of years.

Your post intrigued me - Looking at their next three years through an NBC lens -

22
Marshall, Cal, Stanford, UNLV, Clemson, BC

23
Navy (Dublin, Ireland), Tennessee State, Central Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Wake Forest

24
Northern Illinois, Stanford, Navy (East Rutherford, NJ), Virginia, Dates TBD: vs. Florida State, vs. Miami (FL)

So how is that worth millions to NBC? How many eyeballs are you going to get with that line-up? I see one game in 22, two in 23, and nothin' in 24 that couldn't be shut out of the TV market for all but the most loyal Irish faux alums by FOX/ABC, and CBS/ESPN and a good placement of key games in the Big Ten and SEC from 12 noon to 11 at night. In fact, the Big Ten and SEC could ignore expansion and still make the NBC home game schedule pretty worthless.

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

The problem with these 20-24 team expansions is the ratings comes from OSU, USC, ttun, Penn st, Wisconsin playing as much as possible. At 16 teams (3-6-6) and 18 teams (1-7-7) you can have OSU USC every other year. At 20 it’s every third year, at 24 it’s every 3.5 years. That’s a lot of money off the table unless you are bringing teams that have the same billing.

I don’t know if there are any teams worth adding beyond ND to counter reducing the number of USC OSU or USC ttun games. The conference might actually make LESS on their tv deal going to 20 than staying at 16-18. Not less just per school, but less total.

 

[Zurp]

The problem with these 20-24 team expansions is the ratings comes from OSU, USC, ttun, Penn st, Wisconsin playing as much as possible. At 16 teams (3-6-6) and 18 teams (1-7-7) you can have OSU USC every other year. At 20 it’s every third year, at 24 it’s every 3.5 years. That’s a lot of money off the table unless you are bringing teams that have the same billing.

I don’t know if there are any teams worth adding beyond ND to counter reducing the number of USC OSU or USC ttun games. The conference might actually make LESS on their tv deal going to 20 than staying at 16-18. Not less just per school, but less total.

I think the thing is that this year it's OSU vs. USC, and that can be tabbed as this huge game for weeks ahead of the game. Next year, it's OSU vs. Penn State, and that can be hyped. The year after, it's OSU vs. Notre Dame. And there's always someone being hyped for some game.

 

[scarletmike]

Yeah, I don’t think TV is hurting for marquee games under any expansion scenario. One year it’s OSU vs USC, the next it’s PSU vs USC, then scUM, etc. They’ll all draw well enough. The number of major teams remains the same in CFB, and if a team like UCLA gets a bit of a recruiting and exposure bump from a move like this, that hype will carry for the first two years for those matchups. The SEC matchups get a bit overhyped because it’s ESPN, but the product is still the same. In fact, I’d bet that USC vs almost any B1G team will draw better than equivalent USC vs PAC team matchups.

 

[cincibuck]

In fact, I’d bet that USC vs almost any B1G team will draw better than equivalent USC vs PAC team matchups.

As noted by the jump from the PAC...

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

This tells me that Warren told them to shove their special treatment demands up their ass. Now, they're hitting the road and going from conference to conference to see who is weak enough for them to exploit. And how do you think the ACC feels right now?

 

[CincyInterloper]

This tells me that Warren told them to shove their special treatment demands up their ass. Now, they're hitting the road and going from conference to conference to see who is weak enough for them to exploit. And how do you think the ACC feels right now?

Kinda like this, maybe?

 

[AJHawkfan]

How beautiful would it be if ND goes and pisses every major conference off and as a result, everyone agrees to stop scheduling them for future games, leaving them forced to play the service academies and the MAC?? Sure, they'd go undefeated every year, but wouldn't garner any consideration for the CFP, based on their shitty schedule strength.....

 

[Woody1968]

75 mil, lol. not happening without the B1G or the SEC. clearly not happening with the ACC.

 

[BuckTwenty]

Being that they can only make money on their home games for broadcast rights, I can't see how they can make that amount of money happen

If somehow NBC gifts them $75 million to stay independent while double-heading games with fucking Baylor, the Big Ten and SEC will continue swelling their bank accounts further and lapping them. And I sincerely hope that's the direction that they go