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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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ORD understands the university negotiating environment, with the bureaucratic processes and complexity of public and private institutional arrangements. I also have some experience of that as a Dean and serving in multinational academic boards as do several BP members.

You do NOT give any special treatment to any team wishing to enter the Big Ten. Notre Dame's NBC deal must end. NBC must negotiate with other networks for the Big Ten broadcast rights etc. If Notre Dame does not agree with this, then the response must be scorched earth. No Big Ten games. None. In any sport. If they wish to join the SEC, then let them. No special anything because they do not deserve it.
 
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Steve19 said:
ORD understands the university negotiating environment, with the bureaucratic processes and complexity of public and private institutional arrangements. I also have some experience of that as a Dean and serving in multinational academic boards as do several BP members.

You do NOT give any special treatment to any team wishing to enter the Big Ten. Notre Dame's NBC deal must end. NBC must negotiate with other networks for the Big Ten broadcast rights etc. If Notre Dame does not agree with this, then the response must be scorched earth. No Big Ten games. None. In any sport. If they wish to join the SEC, then let them. No special anything because they do not deserve it.
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Be prepared to walk away; always be prepared to walk the fuck away. Jesus, that's negotiating 101, yet I somehow think there are elements within the Big Ten that still think it's 1955, and if we don't grab our ankles for the priests then every Catholic church in the region (and Catholic high schools) will be bad mouthing Big Ten schools from the pulpit every Sunday.
 
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My guide to negotiating with ND.
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I agree with CincyInterloper, but that book cover reminds me of a time several decades ago.

I love the hubris on books like this. It is almost always warmed up drivel that any entry level negotiating course would have taught. I was travelling to a meeting with Nelson Mandela and others in a limo. We passed a billboard beside a major freeway in Johannesburg that announced a leading American author was coming to reveal the secrets of successful negotiation to South Africans for the first time.

Really? The first time? Mandela and his team had just concluded the negotiations to end Apartheid. Someone pointed at the billboard and asked "should we call him, Madiba?" Then everyone starting laughing out loud.
 
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Steve19 said:
I agree with CincyInterloper, but that book cover reminds me of a time several decades ago.

I love the hubris on books like this. It is almost always warmed up drivel that any entry level negotiating course would have taught. I was travelling to a meeting with Nelson Mandela and others in a limo. We passed a billboard beside a major freeway in Johannesburg that announced a leading American author was coming to reveal the secrets of successful negotiation to South Africans for the first time.

Really? The first time? Mandela and his team had just concluded the negotiations to end Apartheid. Someone pointed at the billboard and asked "should we call him, Madiba?" Then everyone starting laughing out loud.
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I actually bought that book back in the early 2000's to take to a meeting with our sales team because of the cover. At the time, sales was proposing to give away a ton of minutes on our system to land a deal with a large local company. However, engineering determined that this would have brought the network to its knees, so it was a non-starter. Anyway, while we were waiting for the meeting to start, I mentioned that I'd been reading this book on negotiation that I thought was really ground breaking. When I pulled it out and showed everyone the cover, it got a pretty good laugh.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
Wonder why there is a big jump in 2026 for every conference when there are no new media rights deals scheduled to end in 2025.
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There seems to be an expectation that the B1G will sign a short term deal this current go-around, and I’m guessing that there’s an expectation that the longer media deals could get restructured, especially if there’s further conference realignment.
 
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BB73 said:
Those numbers seem to show that it would take about 2 years for an ACC team to make up for their exit fee.

There must be some interesting discussions in Virginia and North Carolina regarding a possible departure to the B1G.
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I keep hearing Virginia as a potential B1G add, but I don't see it. It's a great university, but what does their football program bring to the table? To me, they seem like Kansas east, which is another university the B1G should leave alone.
 
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CincyInterloper said:
I keep hearing Virginia as a potential B1G add, but I don't see it. It's a great university, but what does their football program bring to the table? To me, they seem like Kansas east, which is another university the B1G should leave alone.
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Difference with Kansas is that UVA solidifies the mid-Atlantic region from Virginia to Connecticut. UVA is a top 4 public university, and Kansas is barely clinging to their AAU membership. Virginia is a top tier recruiting area; Kansas is crap. UVA has a nationwide alumni presence (really strong in DC and NYC) while Kansas is a regional school. A UVA/UNC package is an absolute no-brainer, and UVA alone is still skrong.
 
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Abenaki said:


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80 days huh

The game with ND happens on day 50

Announcing it after you got your teeth kicked in would be awesome, ND. You should do that. Might be smarter to announce it about two days before the game though. That’d give the game a little more media attention.

Or we could just leave them twisting in the wind, dangling there without a chair when the music stops
 
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