Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[BUCKYLE]

Athletics, rivalries, tradition, revenue, and the fact that they are WORLDS away from Big Ten country are all good reasons to stay in the Big 12.

Rivalries, tradition, and revenue all fall under "athletics". Unless there is some academic rivalry I'm unaware of...or the tradition of which you write is something other than the Big Twelve, which didn't combine the former members of the SWC with the original Big Eight in football until 1996.

 

[AuburnBuckeye]

Rivalries, tradition, and revenue all fall under "athletics". Unless there is some academic rivalry I'm unaware of...or the tradition of which you write is something other than the Big Twelve, which didn't combine the former members of the SWC with the original Big Eight in football until 1996.

Academics? What kind of educational institution cares about that? It's all about football man.

 

[jwinslow]

Academics? What kind of educational institution cares about that?

I take it you're new to the big ten?

It's all about football man.

Not up here.

 

[AuburnBuckeye]

I take it you're new to the big ten?Not up here.

Perhaps I should have used sarcasm tags.

I figured saying that an educational institution didn't care about academics was asinine enough to get the sarcasm across.

 

[jwinslow]

You forgot the sarcasm font. Either that or brick was seeping into other posts :p

 

[Woody1968]

Before this year, Mack Brown had 1 conference title IIRC. The king of the conference was OU, and quite comparable to OSU in terms of big game results (if not a LOT more humbled). Texas wasn't that far ahead of Michigan on the decade, and they don't have a 3rd team in the b12, which PSU has been at times.

I think Texas would rather stay in the b12 because they'd have an easier road to the BCS/NC than if they came north and had to beat 2-3 elite programs instead of 1 (this is based on Nebraska being a bit mediocre for the time being)

Nebraska seems to be moving in the right direction, let's not forget, that when the Big 12 started, the two top programs in the conference were Nebraska and Kansas State. The Big 12 south was weaker, and Texas hadn't sniffed a national title since the early 1970s.

That said, I think any incentive for Texas to join the Big 10 is just wishful thinking on the part of those who think they would be a good fit based on academics. That may be, but they are simply too far away, and are a longer shot than Missouri, Iowa State or even Nebraska. Personally, I don't think the Big 10 will try to raid the Big 12. I think Notre Dame is still the front runner, and if that doesn't work out, Pitt, Syracuse or West Virginia, maybe Rutgers, Cincy or UCONN. But if Notre Dame stays independent, I would not be suprised to see no expansion take place. The Big 10 knows that eventually Notre Dame will have no choice but to join a conference. If on the field success does not come quickly to the Domers, I would not be suprised if the BCS gets rid of the Notre Dame rule, nad sticks them in the same situation as the non AQ conference champions. Sooner or later, the Irish are going to have to take a bite out of the shit sandwich their ego has made for them.

 

[AuburnBuckeye]

You forgot the sarcasm font. Either that or brick was seeping into other posts :p

Eh, he's just looking at it from a fan's point of view. When i see the Big Ten logo the first thing that comes to my mind isn't libraries and laboratories.

 

[Woody1968]

Rivalries, tradition, and revenue all fall under "athletics". Unless there is some academic rivalry I'm unaware of...or the tradition of which you write is something other than the Big Twelve, which didn't combine the former members of the SWC with the original Big Eight in football until 1996.

The Red River Rivalry was OOC until 1996, yes. But now the Oklahoma/Nebraska rivalry has suffered.

 

[ScriptOhio]

How about adding West Virginia? I'd love to see how the West Virginia fans react when scUM (football with Rodriquez and basketball with Beilein) goes to Morgantown to play agame.

 

[sandgk]

I'm starting the ORD_AAU alert clock right now.

 

[Woody1968]

I'm starting the ORD_AAU alert clock right now.

In the past, that's been a major consideration. From what I understand, this time it is purely about strengthening the conference in football. No matter what they say or what people will think, they want to add Notre Dame. Anything other than that would suprise me.

 

[Zurp]

Just put all 120 (or however many there are) teams into one conference.
Except Notre Dame. They can go smoke it.

 

[Muck]

Nebraska seems to be moving in the right direction, let's not forget, that when the Big 12 started, the two top programs in the conference were Nebraska and Kansas State. The Big 12 south was weaker, and Texas hadn't sniffed a national title since the early 1970s.

Kansas State had only a couple of good years before the formation of the Big 12. Prior to that they were consistently one of the worst teams in the country.

Colorado had been consistently the second best team in the conference since Oklahoma had started to taper off in the early 90's.

Kansas State never won a Big 8 championship. Colorado won 3 consecutive from 89-91.

 

[BuckStruck]

Boise State anyone?

Agreed.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Perhaps I should have used sarcasm tags.

I figured saying that an educational institution didn't care about academics was asinine enough to get the sarcasm across.

Well, you do have an SEC based username. Just sayin'