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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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sparcboxbuck said:
LordJeffBuck said:
Works for me (also adding Notre Dame and Kansas to get to 24)
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You kiss your mom with that mouth?
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Ha ha, funny line, like given, but....

I've explained my position on both schools elsewhere, and I'll restate it here:

1. I don't want Kansas in the Big Ten. However, if the BigTen can add 8 or 9 quality PAC schools and needs someone to fill the 23rd or 24th slot in the expanded conference, then I would gladly take Kansas because: (A) they are available now (unlike SEC and ACC school, which have "grant of rights" tied up until 2034 and 2036, respectively); (B) they fit geographically; (C) they are AAU; and (D) at least they are a basketball blue blood.

2. I don't want Notre Dame in the Big Ten. Notre Dame has some good characteristics (football tradition, national brand, semi-affiliation with Big Ten through hockey, geography), as well as some bad characteristics (non-AAU, Catholic, independent streak, air of superiority). It would be a tough marriage.

Here's the main selling point for Notre Dame in my opinion: if football ever decides to market itself internationally like all of the other major team sports (basketball, baseball, soccer, hockey), then which CFB brand would have the most international appeal? Well, with 1.2 billion Catholics in the world, I'd guess that Notre Dame would be at the top of that list. If the Big Ten took Rutgers (no redeeming qualities) just to add the 20-million person NYC market, then why not add Notre Dame (some exceptional qualities) to add the 1.2-billion worldwide Catholic market? If eyeballs in Barcelona, Rio de Janeiro, and Lagos mean anything to you (and someday they will), then hold your nose and add Notre Dame to the conference.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Ha ha, funny line, like given, but....

I've explained my position on both schools elsewhere, and I'll restate it here:

1. I don't want Kansas in the Big Ten. However, if the BigTen can add 8 or 9 quality PAC schools and needs someone to fill the 23rd or 24th slot in the expanded conference, then I would gladly take Kansas because: (A) they are available now (unlike SEC and ACC school, which have "grant of rights" tied up until 2034 and 2036, respectively); (B) they fit geographically; (C) they are AAU; and (D) at least they are a basketball blue blood.

2. I don't want Notre Dame in the Big Ten. Notre Dame has some good characteristics (football tradition, national brand, semi-affiliation with Big Ten through hockey, geography), as well as some bad characteristics (non-AAU, Catholic, independent streak, air of superiority). It would be a tough marriage.

Here's the main selling point for Notre Dame in my opinion: if football ever decides to market itself internationally like all of the other major team sports (basketball, baseball, soccer, hockey), then which CFB brand would have the most international appeal? Well, with 1.2 billion Catholics in the world, I'd guess that Notre Dame would be at the top of that list. If the Big Ten took Rutgers (no redeeming qualities) just to add the 20-million person NYC market, then why not add Notre Dame (some exceptional qualities) to add the 1.2-billion worldwide Catholic market? If eyeballs in Barcelona, Rio de Janeiro, and Lagos mean anything to you (and someday they will), then hold your nose and add Notre Dame to the conference.
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The main worry I have is I don't know if the B1G leadership (not Kevin The Wankpheasant but the majority of the University Presidents) see any of this as anything approaching a priority. I know in the vast scheme of things that athletics are down the totem pole a bit (as they should be) but I don't think they want to see it totally marginalized either given the $$$ involved.
 
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I give Warren a bit of a doubt here considering he was just settling into his freaking job and 11 out of 14 Presidents voted to suspend or delay. I know he's a low flying target on this board, but nobody short of Delaney was going to do anything other than what a majority of Presidents told him to do. Let's judge him on how he navigates this. This is his first real test, not last year.

As for this, I think it's common knowledge that the best thing for the B1G to do is go balls deep, raid the PAC and form PRESTIGE WORLDWIDE. Yet, as Dennis Dodd said on ESPNU radio today, "the B1G Presidents, unlike the SEC Presidents, probably don't have the stomach for that kind of move." So here we are? Looking at fucking half-measures: Kansas, who's next up to be pimp slapped out of the AAU, dreaming that the domers will ever get over their Fieding Yost butthurt or that UNC will ever give up its Southern identity.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I give Warren a bit of a doubt here considering he was just settling into his freaking job and 11 out of 14 Presidents voted to suspend or delay. I know he's a low flying target on this board, but nobody short of Delaney was going to do anything other than what a majority of Presidents told him to do. Let's judge him on how he navigates this. This is his first real test, not last year.

As for this, I think it's common knowledge that the best thing for the B1G to do is go balls deep, raid the PAC and form PRESTIGE WORLDWIDE. Yet, as Dennis Dodd said on ESPNU radio today, "the B1G Presidents, unlike the SEC Presidents, probably don't have the stomach for that kind of move." So here we are? Looking at fucking half-measures: Kansas, who's next up to be pimp slapped out of the AAU, dreaming that the domers will ever get over their Fieding Yost butthurt or that UNC will ever give up its Southern identity.
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Cockblock playoff expansion like the Spartans at Thermopylae. 4 teams is our Hot Gates.
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
Wait, @ORD_Buckeye does this check out?
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But fuck, Miami too. And while we're at it fuck the local Miami too. Fuck 'em both.
 
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