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1. West- 5 pac 12 teamsIn that case just do 4x5 team divisions I'd think?
Three divisions would be a nightmare. You're setting it up to have one team bitching every single year.
I'd actually like the B1G to expand to 24, taking most of the Pac-12. And then we could have two 12-team divisions within which most season-long competition would occur. That would remove most of the concern with travel costs for the non-revenue sports.A good podcast from Buckeye Scoop's Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr: LINK
They mostly agree with the BP sentiments on expansion. The podcast is 40 minutes long, so here are some highlights:
1. It will be nearly impossible to poach teams from the ACC or SEC due to the conference Grant of Rights. SEC expires in 2034, ACC in 2036.
2. However, the ACC has a crap TV deal and schools will likely want to leave. If the ACC implodes over the TV deal, then some schools might be possible Big Ten expansion targets, namely UNC and UVa.
3. Because poaching teams from the SEC or ACC is unlikely, that leaves either Big XII leftovers (bad) or Pac-12 (good). A lot of talk about USC, but they also mentioned (among others) Colorado (big growing market) and Utah (not so big growing market).
4. Kansas is the best of the Big XII leftovers, but their only positive is basketball, which doesn't move the TV needle nearly as much as football. Kansas might be an option if the Big Ten needs a 20th or 24th team in order to form equal divisions (or "pods", to use their term), but they won't be a primary target of the Big Ten.
5. Lack of AAU membership is a deal breaker.
6. Conference expansion will be decided by the university presidents, not by the athletic directors (and not by Kevin Warren).
7. Best options for expansion:
a. Pac-12 schools (and possibly Kansas)____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
b. UNC and/or UVa (and possibly Kansas)
c. Do nothing and stay at 14 schools
By my count, there are 9 Pac-12 schools that are viable options (meaning AAU members). Here's my order of preference, using a blend of football, academics, and TV markets:
1. USC
2. UCLA
3. Oregon
4. Stanford
5. California
6. Washington
7. Colorado
8. Arizona
9. Utah
Bob Bowlsby has the singular distinction of being the only conference commissioner who is more feckless than Kevin Warren.I'm thinking about this whole thing and how does he send the cease & desist without it. Something like actual communication records from one of the contacted schools either directly from espn or from the AAC mentioning espn's role in it. Otherwise, what the fuck was he thinking and where were the lawyers to stop him?
Works for me (also adding Notre Dame and Kansas to get to 24)I'd actually like the B1G to expand to 24, taking most of the Pac-12. And then we could have two 12-team divisions within which most season-long competition would occur. That would remove most of the concern with travel costs for the non-revenue sports.
Big Ten Atlantic | Big Ten Midwest |
---|---|
Rutgers | Indiana |
Maryland | Purdue |
Penn State | Notre Dame |
Ohio State | Illinois |
Michigan State | Northwestern |
Michigan | Wisconsin |
Big Ten Plains | Big Ten Pacific |
Iowa | USC |
Minnesota | UCLA |
Nebraska | Stanford |
Kansas | California |
Colorado | Oregon |
Utah | Washington |
Three divisions would be a nightmare. You're setting it up to have one team bitching every single year.
Works for me (also adding Notre Dame and Kansas to get to 24)
Exactly what I was thinking minus ND and Kansas.Works for me (also adding Notre Dame and Kansas to get to 24)
Big Ten Atlantic Big Ten Midwest Rutgers Indiana Maryland Purdue Penn State Notre Dame Ohio State Illinois Michigan State Northwestern Michigan Wisconsin Big Ten Plains Big Ten Pacific Iowa USC Minnesota UCLA Nebraska Stanford Kansas California Colorado Oregon Utah Washington
Works for me (also adding Notre Dame and Kansas to get to 24)
Big Ten Atlantic Big Ten Midwest Rutgers Indiana Maryland Purdue Penn State Notre Dame Ohio State Illinois Michigan State Northwestern Michigan Wisconsin Big Ten Plains Big Ten Pacific Iowa USC Minnesota UCLA Nebraska Stanford Kansas California Colorado Oregon Utah Washington
The Manifest Destiny Conference.Why not three divisions. Two highest rated division champs play for the championship.
East becomes B1G--Atlantic. West becomes B1G--Great Lakes. B1G--Pacific: USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Colorado.