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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%
  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%
  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%
  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%
  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%
  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%
  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%
  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%
  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%

  • Total voters
    313
Why not three divisions. Two highest rated division champs play for the championship.

East becomes B1G--Atlantic. West becomes B1G--Great Lakes. B1G--Pacific: USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Colorado.

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In that case just do 4x5 team divisions I'd think?
 
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In that case just do 4x5 team divisions I'd think?
1. West- 5 pac 12 teams
2. Midwest- Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Iowa and Colorado.
3. Central- Sparty, ttun, Illinois, NW and Indiana
4. East- Ohio State, PSU, Purdue, Rutgers and Maryland.

Play 5 in your division and then at least 4 out of division (have lock games so that OSU/ttun is protected). Top 2 teams go onto the championship (otherwise maybe a final 4??).

Edited: Just for fun it'd be so cool to do this and then have a final 4... imagine a semi final line up of Ohio State v ttun (or Indiana) and then Wisconsin vs USC or Oregon.

Still probably ends up Wisconsin v OSU lol..

I won't lie this is kind of exciting. Even thinking about OSU visiting Washington or Colorado sounds awesome.
 
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A good podcast from Buckeye Scoop's Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr: LINK

They mostly agree with the BP sentiments on expansion. The podcast is 40 minutes long, so here are some highlights:

1. It will be nearly impossible to poach teams from the ACC or SEC due to the conference Grant of Rights. SEC expires in 2034, ACC in 2036.

2. However, the ACC has a crap TV deal and schools will likely want to leave. If the ACC implodes over the TV deal, then some schools might be possible Big Ten expansion targets, namely UNC and UVa.

3. Because poaching teams from the SEC or ACC is unlikely, that leaves either Big XII leftovers (bad) or Pac-12 (good). A lot of talk about USC, but they also mentioned (among others) Colorado (big growing market) and Utah (not so big growing market).

4. Kansas is the best of the Big XII leftovers, but their only positive is basketball, which doesn't move the TV needle nearly as much as football. Kansas might be an option if the Big Ten needs a 20th or 24th team in order to form equal divisions (or "pods", to use their term), but they won't be a primary target of the Big Ten.

5. Lack of AAU membership is a deal breaker.

6. Conference expansion will be decided by the university presidents, not by the athletic directors (and not by Kevin Warren).

7. Best options for expansion:

a. Pac-12 schools (and possibly Kansas)
b. UNC and/or UVa (and possibly Kansas)
c. Do nothing and stay at 14 schools​
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By my count, there are 9 Pac-12 schools that are viable options (meaning AAU members). Here's my order of preference, using a blend of football, academics, and TV markets:

1. USC
2. UCLA
3. Oregon
4. Stanford
5. California
6. Washington
7. Colorado
8. Arizona
9. Utah
I'd actually like the B1G to expand to 24, taking most of the Pac-12. And then we could have two 12-team divisions within which most season-long competition would occur. That would remove most of the concern with travel costs for the non-revenue sports.

I'm thinking about this whole thing and how does he send the cease & desist without it. Something like actual communication records from one of the contacted schools either directly from espn or from the AAC mentioning espn's role in it. Otherwise, what the fuck was he thinking and where were the lawyers to stop him?
Bob Bowlsby has the singular distinction of being the only conference commissioner who is more feckless than Kevin Warren.
 
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I'd actually like the B1G to expand to 24, taking most of the Pac-12. And then we could have two 12-team divisions within which most season-long competition would occur. That would remove most of the concern with travel costs for the non-revenue sports.
Works for me (also adding Notre Dame and Kansas to get to 24)

Big Ten AtlanticBig Ten Midwest
RutgersIndiana
MarylandPurdue
Penn StateNotre Dame
Ohio StateIllinois
Michigan StateNorthwestern
MichiganWisconsin
Big Ten PlainsBig Ten Pacific
IowaUSC
MinnesotaUCLA
NebraskaStanford
KansasCalifornia
ColoradoOregon
UtahWashington
 
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I'll spitball one. <1% chance of happening since a couple of non-AAU members are involved with joining the conference, but **Bosa shrug**


Start by taking schools that the SEC would otherwise. If the PAC 12 ever breaks up, I don't think there's any worry the six PAC 12 schools we have been talking about would ever hold their nose and join the SEC (USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, & Washington)

North Carolina & Virginia could potentially blow up the ACC if they moved to the B1G. Tell Clemson & Notre Dame that the ACC is dead/dying, and there's big money and an easier road to the playoffs through the B1G than the SEC (whether they join us or not, fuck both of them and let them wallow in their mediocre paydays). Otherwise, take Georgia Tech & Florida State to stay contiguous from Nebraska all the way to Florida through the heart of SEC territory

(remnants of the Big 12 & ACC could start a decent conference together with no real upper tier of teams in college football)

Using ORD's 3 divisions (since we would have 18 teams...)

B1G Plains:
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Northwestern
Illinois

B1G Great Lakes:
Ohio State
TSUN
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Notre Dame (or Penn State)

B1G Atlantic:
Penn State (or Georgia Tech)
Rutgers
Maryland
Virginia
North Carolina
Clemson (or Florida State)

Play the other 5 teams in your division, plus 2 teams from the other 2 divisions each year to keep our current 9-game conference schedule. Guaranteed you'll play every member of the conference once every 3 years, and have a home/away game against everyone in the conference every 6 years

*OR*

...you can play 3 teams from the other two divisions every year for an 11-game conference schedule. This way, you'd play everyone in the conference once every other year and have a home/away game against everyone in the conference every 4 years (so you'd visit everywhere at least once in your 4-year college career)

In addition, this sets it up perfectly for those six PAC 12 schools. Whenever they would want in, they could immediately make up the new B1G Pacific. 11 game conference schedule, play everyone every 3 years, home/away every 6 years
 
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Four 6 team divisions:
East: OSU, Rutgers, Maryland, Ped St, MSU, scUM.
Midwest: Notre Lame, IU, PU, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern.
Plains: Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado, Arizona St., BYU.
West: USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Washington.

Gets you the: Los Angeles, Bay Area, Seattle, Denver & Phoenix media markets. Plus Notre Dame & BYU’s alumni. I know AAU membership could be a sticking point.

Each team plays 5 division games & then based on where they finished the prior year in their division a game against each other divisional opponent who finished in the same spot. So for example scUM finishes 6th in the East then next year they’d play the 6th place teams from the Midwest, Plains & West. Could also give each team a protected rival so ND could continue to play USC or Cheese vs Minnesota and you’d have 9 conference games. If the playoffs are expanding to 12 I see no reason to have a conference championship game. I’d also be fine substituting BC & Georgia Tech for ND & BYU and readjusting the divisions
for geography.
 
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Works for me (also adding Notre Dame and Kansas to get to 24)

Big Ten AtlanticBig Ten Midwest
RutgersIndiana
MarylandPurdue
Penn StateNotre Dame
Ohio StateIllinois
Michigan StateNorthwestern
MichiganWisconsin
Big Ten PlainsBig Ten Pacific
IowaUSC
MinnesotaUCLA
NebraskaStanford
KansasCalifornia
ColoradoOregon
UtahWashington


Eh if we're going to 24 I'd go with Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Oregon, UNC, UVA, GT, and probboly Duke? And we could talk about letting in ND, Colorado, Kansas after Purdue, Northwestern and Illinios give up sports?
 
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