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Best WR corp in College Football!

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MililaniBuckeye;696309; said:
Here ya go:

KICKOFFS
(returns/yardage/TDs/average)

Ginn
2006: 17 347 0 20.41
2005: 18 532 1 29.56 (#4 in country)
2004: Not a returner
Career: 35 879 1 25.11

Breaston
2006: 17 415 0 24.41
2005: 23 646 1 28.09
2004: 28 689 0 24.61
Career: 68 1750 1 25.74

While the return average is nearly identical, Ginn scores a TD every 35 returns vice Breaston's every 68 returns (virtually twice as good). Not to mention teams have been kicking short or away from Ginn nearly all year.

PUNTS
(returns/yardage/TDs/average)

Ginn
2006: 24 266 1 11.08
2005: 25 250 1 10.00
2004: 15 384 4 25.60 (#1 in country)
2003: High school
Career: 64 900 6 14.06

Breaston
2006: 29 332 1 11.45
2005: 29 356 0 12.28
2004: 24 292 1 12.17
2003: 45 619 2 13.76
Career: 127 1599 4 12.59

Ginn's career average is almost a yard and a half better, and his return-to-TD ratio completely blows Breaston's away (10.67-to-1, vice 31.75-to-1). What makes this even more amazing is the fact that the opposition has been punting away from Ginn for two full seasons now.

Breaston is a solid returner, but Ginn is clearly superior...
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All solid points. But if they've been punting away from Ginn, they've been punting away from Breaston for the same amount of time.....the number of extra returns Breaston has doesn't even add up to 1 every 2 games, both on the kickoff end of things and the punting end.

At least somebody bothered to go and get stats to actually prove what they're saying instead of hopping up and down like I just kicked their dog and going "ZOMG U FUKKING MORAN GINN IS TEH ROXORZ"
 
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scarletngray;696315; said:
HelltoMichigan - OK, so you've been proven wrong concerning who has the better recievers and who has the better return man.

Now what?
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Now what? I concede the return point, rationalize that it has absolutely nothing to do with whose receiving corps is better. Then I continue to insist that Michigan's big 3 is better than anyone's big 2, because I haven't seen anything to sway me from my position on that, and pretty much figuring that it doesn't matter since a lot of you have convinced yourselves that one clip of Robiskie makes up for all those extra catches and yards Breaston has and this is an OSU site so that's a fairly fruitless argument. (I can't imagine that a neutral observer would take Robiskie over Breaston.)

What did you expect from a recalcitrant Michigan fan who's "obviously" in denial? :wink2:
 
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As for "we've given you numbers and scenarios", I am one person and you guys are about 10 or 15. I could sit here all day responding to everything and still it'd look like I was "dodging evidence" because I absolutely cannot research and type that friggin' fast to catch up with 10 or 15 other people.
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Then don't pick the fight if you're not willing to put the effort into it...
 
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because I haven't seen anything to sway me from my position on that, and pretty much figuring that it doesn't matter since a lot of you have convinced yourselves that one clip of Robiskie makes up for all those extra catches and yards Breaston has and this is an OSU site so that's a fairly fruitless argument. (I can't imagine that a neutral observer would take Robiskie over Breaston.)
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Well let's see I've talked about Robiskie in grand detail and you've barely touched on why Breaston is a good receiver, and every sports writer in America pretty much agrees Breaston is a bust and is way overrated. As for the last statement, I can only laugh about it. I have numerous Michigan fans who all agree Robo is an amazing receiver who is going to be very special down the road.
 
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again, speed, quickness, and elusiveness mean little if you can't catch the ball. breaston doesn't have the hands to be considered an elite receiver nor better than robiskie. if breaston shows that he can be trusted to make the tough catch and especially the consistent catch, then i'll concede the possibility that breaston is better than robiskie.
 
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:oh: Most importantly look at the things that numbers can't measure, Robo always makes the adjustment and comes back to Troy when he breaks out of the pocket, Gonzo makes catches when you need them most, how many of his catches went for first downs? And look at the highlights from the season and look at how many one handed acrobatic catches the entire corp has made this year. And as far as the TGIII vs Breaston arguement, lets remember up until the Indiana game Breaston was a missing man in the scUM game plan, ZERO touchdowns in any way shape or form. scUM's recievers are good, ours are better, MUCH better. :io:
 
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MililaniBuckeye;696327; said:
Now look who's making arbitrary statements...
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How on earth is that arbitrary? In the part of that statement you deleted, I pointed out why. It comes from your own stats. I'm being consistent as consistent can be here. Breaston gets punted away from all the time. In Michigan's last three games, the opponents punted 17 times and Breaston got to return 3 of them, why d'you suppose that is?

Then don't pick the fight if you're not willing to put the effort into it...
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:lol: whatever.
 
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Just thought i'd look up the receiving stats of the teams as a whole.

Ohio State Receiving (13 players)

Top 3 (Ginn, Ginzo, Robo)

137 catches 1,887 yards 13.7 ypc 22 touchdowns

Bottom 10

80 catches 869 yards 10.8 ypc 9 touchdowns


Michigan Receiving (14 players)

Top 3 (Manningham, Arrington, Breaston)

119 catches 1,689 yards 14.1 ypc 17 touchdowns

Bottom 11

61 catches 533 yards 8.7 ypc 3 touchdowns


I think what we can gather from this is that the top 3 for both teams are considerably close. OSU has more catches, yards, and touchdowns although Michigan holds a slight edge in yards per catch. Yes, manningham missed a few games but the flip side of that coin is that Gonzo missed about 2 games with a concussion I believe? Lets also not forget that most of our starters sat out alot of 4th quarters due to large leads, moreso than Michigan. I think we can also gather that the depth of the WR's at OSU is significantly better than Michigans since we trump them in all 4 categories by a significant margin.

As for Manningham, I think he has the ability to be the best receiving of the entire bunch, but he's still young and needs work. He seemed to dominate inferior teams early in the season and pad his stats. Obviously torching NDs secondary isn't that big of an accomplishment as just about every good WR that played them did. Obviously I did not watch ALL of Michigans games, but I watched quite a few. Lets not forget that outside the 1st drive against OSU, Manningham did relatively nothing against Jenkins and the secondary whereas Ginn & co. ran wild on LEON HALL & co.
 
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