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BUCKYLE;1344876; said:Well, different backs had different Olines. To completely ignore that would be ignorant, imo. I don't know how you believe it should be tossed aside like it doesn't matter. It's like with Barry in the pro's...the one comment I've heard more than any other from not just fans, but broadcasters, and football analysts, is that given the Cowboy's Oline, Barry would've smashed Emmit's records...and I'd agree. I just don't know how you can take the one thing that can make a shitty RB good, and a good one GREAT, and toss it aside like it's irrelevant. I can't, and I won't.
powerlifter;1344888; said:I have heard that a lot as well,but I can only judge things on what realistically happened. Would Jim Brown have dominated pros now? Highly unlikely,but unprovable. Would Bo Jackson have been the greatest RB ever,if he was never injured(most people will agree that he was one of the greatest athletes ever)? What if the lions would have made some changes and had a solid oline? Who's to say there aren't MANY running backs that made it into the pros that wouldn't have excelled with that cowboys offensive line? Impossible equation
Nutriaitch;1343631; said:I may be biased, but Kevin Faulk was amazing at LSU.
Still holds SEC record for All-Purpose yards (6833) and TDs (53)
2nd in SEC history in Rushing yards.
When you think of some of the other RBs that have come through the SEC, (Emmitt Smith, Bo Jackson, Terrell Davis, Garrison Hearst, Shaun Alexander, Darren McFadden, Rudi Johnson) that's pretty good list to sit (almost) on top.
Best single game performance I ever witnessed was Shaun Alexander against LSU in '96. Dude was a freshman and went for 290 with 4 TDs and sat out most of the 4th quarter.
BUCKYLE;1344893; said:And precisely because of that, this whole discussion is an impossible equation. That's what makes it fun to argue.
Now, just admit that Beanie is the best EVAR and we can all move on.
Quagmire;1343693; said:Eddie wins this every time because of one thing.....
Eddie was faster.
LordJeffBuck;1344054; said:Of the Buckeye backs that I have seen, I'd rank them ... based mostly on pure talent ... something like this:
1. Archie Griffin - all the records, 2 Heismans, a true legend
2. Maurice Clarett - so talented ... the great "what if?"
3. Beanie Wells - a throwback to Earl Campbell
4. Robert Smith - so smooth and fluid ... but the supporting cast (and coaching staff) was little help
5a. Keith Byars - a broken foot cost him a Heisman and the Buckeyes a shot at a national championship in 1985
5b. Eddie George - very productive in a very productive offense ... but a lot of guys would have shined in that situation
5c. Tim Spencer - his 3,553 yards ranks 3rd at OSU (behind Griffin and George), and his YPC (5.52) is identical to Eddie's.
Who's the Greatest Running Back in the History of College Football?
Keith Byars - a broken foot cost him a Heisman and the Buckeyes a shot at a national championship in 1985, and actually being a tailback in the NFL, a spot in the Hall of fame... etc.
LordJeffBuck;1344054; said:1. Archie Griffin - all the records, 2 Heismans, a true legend
2. Maurice Clarett - so talented ... the great "what if?"
3. Beanie Wells - a throwback to Earl Campbell
4. Robert Smith - so smooth and fluid ... but the supporting cast (and coaching staff) was little help
5a. Keith Byars - a broken foot cost him a Heisman and the Buckeyes a shot at a national championship in 1985
5b. Eddie George - very productive in a very productive offense ... but a lot of guys would have shined in that situation
5c. Tim Spencer - his 3,553 yards ranks 3rd at OSU (behind Griffin and George), and his YPC (5.52) is identical to Eddie's.
Who's the Greatest Running Back in the History of College Football?
ScriptOhio;1343199; said:He came along six years or so before Barry Sanders; I think Herschel Walker just might be the best running back of all time.