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BB73;1345239; said:It seems to me that if Reggie Bush wants to be considered for being near the top of this list, his coach would have wanted him to at least be on the frickin' field on 4th and 1 near midfield in the BCS Title Game against Texas, when a first down basically would have iced the NC for USC.
For similar reasons, I have Walter Payton ahead of Barry Sanders on my all-time RB list, both behind Jim Brown.
jlb1705;1345288; said:If you talk about "similar reasons", then why did the Fridge get the rock on the goalline in the Super Bowl instead of Payton?
Muck;1345297; said:Jim Brown may not have even been the best back to ever play for 'Cuse...let alone all of college football.
Muck;1345297; said:Jim Brown may not have even been the best back to ever play for 'Cuse...let alone all of college football.
cincibuck;1345314; said:Floyd Little? Ernie Davis? We'll never know about Davis, and I only saw Brown on TV once while he played for the Orangemen, against Penn State, but he could not have gotten that much better between the end of his college career and his rookie year with the Browns. Power, speed, balance, shiftiness, durability, goal line, third and long, posseession time, outlet pass, between the tackles, ouside the tackles, put the ball in Jim Brown's hands. Nothing like him before or since.
Too many writers, coaches, players who saw him and those who followed in the 70's - thru today agree that Brown is in a class of his own for me to disagree.
jlb1705;1345327; said:I'm not directing this at you, but if people are gonna keep Clarett off of any list like this because of his personna and off field behavior, don't you have to do the same for Jim Brown? Or at least keep him off for his part in ADVISING Clarett?
jlb1705;1345327; said:I'm not directing this at you, but if people are gonna keep Clarett off of any list like this because of his personna and off field behavior, don't you have to do the same for Jim Brown? Or at least keep him off for his part in ADVISING Clarett?
jlb1705;1345288; said:If you talk about "similar reasons", then why did the Fridge get the rock on the goalline in the Super Bowl instead of Payton? It certainly wasn't because Patyon wasn't a great back, and I think the same goes for Reggie Bush and Carroll's failure to include him on that important play.
There's something to be said for otherwise great coaches having occasional brain farts.
Agree here. Not Bush's fault he wasn't carrying the ball on the 4th and 2 that cost USC the national championship. Lendale had the ball, and you'd hope your bruiser back could get you 2. USC didn't account for the adjustment by the Texas D, so it got stuffed.jlb1705;1345288; said:If you talk about "similar reasons", then why did the Fridge get the rock on the goalline in the Super Bowl instead of Payton? It certainly wasn't because Patyon wasn't a great back, and I think the same goes for Reggie Bush and Carroll's failure to include him on that important play.
There's something to be said for otherwise great coaches having occasional brain farts.