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BCS Guru (incorrectly) projected LSU-Oklahoma State in Title Game

SouthernBuck;2056827; said:
There was an interesting point brought up last night. Whether or not voters take into consideration the tragedy that hit the Okie St. community the same day i believe that they lost to Iowa St. Voters may feel that losing a coach in the Okie St. community had a large effect on how the football team played and may give them the benefit of the doubt.

It should certainly play into it. Many on this board were wondering why the game wasn't postponed. It probably should have been.
 
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I hate the "Okie State lost to ISU" argument. I don't care who they lost to. They lost one game, flukes happen. That doesn't mean Alabama deserves to play LSU again. They already lost. Give someone else a chance.

Also, win your fucking conference before going to the NCG.
 
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Diego-Bucks;2056674; said:
My own stance on this is:

I think Alabama is the 2nd best team in the nation. I don't know this to be sure. I do know that Alabama lost to the #1 team in the nation already. This has actually happened. I think that Oklahoma State is possibly the 2nd best team in the nation. They have not yet lost to the #1 team in the nation. This has not actually happened yet.

Oklahoma State should be in the game.

Two one-loss teams who can easily be considered #2 in the country. One team's only loss was to the best team in the country and that loss required overtime to decide...they gave up six point in regulation. The other team's loss was to an unranked team in regulation...they gave up 37 points.

A much as I would loathe having to watch LSU-Bama Part Deaux, I fear Bama gets in the NCG solely because of what I just said.
 
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SouthernBuck;2056827; said:
There was an interesting point brought up last night. Whether or not voters take into consideration the tragedy that hit the Okie St. community the same day i believe that they lost to Iowa St. Voters may feel that losing a coach in the Okie St. community had a large effect on how the football team played and may give them the benefit of the doubt.

I get that argument I really do...I wouldn't want to be an assistant coach for a non-profitable sport anywhere in the SEC in the future if that's the case tho...I wouldn't put it past those criminals to stage something down there.

Sorry..I feel like bashing someone today..The Buckeyes didn't play last night for the title..I almost didn't believe it until I was forced to when MSU and Wisco came trotting on the field.
 
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We are all missing the real problem with the BCS this year - which is that a championship game is being played at all.

I can't recall a team making a stronger statement than LSU has this season. They have played the toughest schedule and even beaten their likely NC opponent on the road.

So why should they have to subject themselves to the potential upset? Give them the trophy and put an end to it.

If Bamba plays in the NC and pulls off the win their fans should be required to wear shirts that read:

"We beat LSU and it only took us two tries!"

(And I am not an LSU fan.)
 
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NFBuck;2056825; said:
If it is indeed LSU-bammer again, I can tell you I won't be watching. [censored] that noise. I'll throw on some 'Arrested Development' dvds and actually be entertained instead of annoyed.

Same. The first "Game of the Century" was a snoozer and I have no interest in an all SEC National Championship. After Ok State's performance last night, no way in hell they shouldn't get a shot.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2056833; said:
Two one-loss teams who can easily be considered #2 in the country. One team's only loss was to the best team in the country and that loss required overtime to decide...they gave up six point in regulation. The other team's loss was to an unranked team in regulation...they gave up 37 points.

A much as I would loathe having to watch LSU-Bama Part Deaux, I fear Bama gets in the NCG solely because of what I just said.

That was actually 2OT. Also, people don't realize the refs jobbed the Cowboys in the first OT on a fg they called a miss. It was good. But, I digress.
 
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Nicknam4;2056832; said:
I hate the "Okie State lost to ISU" argument. I don't care who they lost to. They lost one game, flukes happen. That doesn't mean Alabama deserves to play LSU again. They already lost. Give someone else a chance.

Also, win your fucking conference before going to the NCG.

I also hate the "win your fucking conference" argument. Don't punish the second best team in the country just because, by fluke, they happen to be in the same conference division as the best team in the country. Bama played LSU to a dead draw in regulation...hard to argue they're not the true #2 team in the country. I'd rather watch LSU's defense try to contain Okie State's offense in the NCG, but I don't think that's going to happen.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2056846; said:
I also hate the "win your [censored]ing conference" argument. Don't punish the second best team in the country just because, by fluke, they happen to be in the same conference division as the best team in the country. Bama played LSU to a dead draw in regulation...hard to argue they're not the true #2 team in the country. I'd rather watch LSU's defense try to contain Okie State's offense in the NCG, but I don't think that's going to happen.

Which is who's fault again? Oh, that's right... The SEC's.
 
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TooTallMenardo;2056848; said:
Which is who's fault again? Oh, that's right... The SEC's.

So, their crystal ball told the SEC that LSU and Alabama would be the two best teams in the country?

Think back to The Game in 2006. Say the late hit on Troy had occured earlier and knocked him out of the game, and Michigan rallies to win. Wouldn't you have said at that time that we deserved a rematch against Michigan in the title game?

Rematches happen all the time in the pros, and in other college sports. It just happens we'll not happy with a potential LSU-Bama rematch because 1.) They're two SEC teams, and: 2.) Their first game sucked.
 
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SouthernBuck;2056827; said:
There was an interesting point brought up last night. Whether or not voters take into consideration the tragedy that hit the Okie St. community the same day i believe that they lost to Iowa St. Voters may feel that losing a coach in the Okie St. community had a large effect on how the football team played and may give them the benefit of the doubt.
Certainly it was not a "happy" locker room environment. It was indeed a tragedy. I'm sure more for the coaches who had a deeper personal relationship with a fellow coach. And I know this will not be popular to say, but it is hard to sell me on the fact that football players on the field gave significantly non-optimal performances because of their grief over the women's program coaches who died so tragically. Many of the team members are recruited from backgrounds where folks they know die from drugs or gunshots - or other factors that we fans might see as an "unusual" situation to be experienced, but the players see as the hard, cold facts of life they experienced time after time. I could be wrong. Maybe they had lots of interaction with the deceased and were deeply and personally torn over it.

But put another way, if that tragedy (a plane crash) had happened the day UF lost to a conference rival on our way to a possible BCSNC, and we lost the game in double OT, I do not think I could come on here with a straight face and tell you that our loss was due to that crash; that but for the crash we would have executed better in OT against a demonstrably inferior team.

They may get that bump, but for me - personally - I do not see it as that great a factor as some people. A factor to be weighed, to be sure..but not a dispositive factor.
 
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