BCS Chances (El Gigante Merge)

NOTREDAMECHIEF · Dec 2, 2005

As it looks like ND-OSU in the Fiesta I was wondering if you guys would like all the daily SBTribune articles about the match-up posted? I thought I would get your opinions first.

DaddyBigBucks · Dec 2, 2005

NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
As it looks like ND-OSU in the Fiesta I was wondering if you guys would like all the daily SBTribune articles about the match-up posted? I thought I would get your opinions first.

I, for one, would appreciate it. Just post them in the game thread.

LRABuck · Dec 2, 2005

Did anyone else hear Junker's phone call on channel 6/8 this morning saying he thought 3 times in 4 years was too much?

I'm so confused. First we're a lock for ND/OSU Fiesta, then we're not allowed because we've been too much....does this mean anything at all???

sandgk · Dec 2, 2005

LRABuck said:
Did anyone else hear Junker's phone call on channel 6/8 this morning saying he thought 3 times in 4 years was too much?

I'm so confused. First we're a lock for ND/OSU Fiesta, then we're not allowed because we've been too much....does this mean anything at all???

I'm filing that under "keeping West Coast hopes alive" till further notice.

methomps · Dec 2, 2005

High Lonesome said:
so oregon's head coach was just on the best damn sports show period "politicing" for oregon, and consequently against ohio state and ND. Mack Brown was absolutely fried after he did the same thing last year. I am just curious what everyone thinks will be the fall out of this. Will there even be a fallout? I believe that he is doing the right thing by pleading his case. I do, however hope that he fails in his quest.

I do see a difference (albeit perhaps small and academic) in campaigning for bowl selection like Oregon and ND are doing and campaigning for AP/Coaches votes like Brown did. I imagine campaigning for bowl bids is a pretty common practice.

sandgk · Dec 2, 2005

methomps said:
I do see a difference (albeit perhaps small and academic) in campaigning for bowl selection like Oregon and ND are doing and campaigning for AP/Coaches votes like Brown did. I imagine campaigning for bowl bids is a pretty common practice.

I tried measuring that difference using my best instrumentation - to no avail. :wink2:

JXC · Dec 2, 2005

NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
As it looks like ND-OSU in the Fiesta I was wondering if you guys would like all the daily SBTribune articles about the match-up posted? I thought I would get your opinions first.

I don't think it's looking like ND-Ohio State for sure anymore. I think anything could happen. Sugar, Orange, or Fiesta. I think Notre Dame is a lock in the Fiesta. But they may be playing PSU or WV.

Did anyone else hear Junker's phone call on channel 6/8 this morning saying he thought 3 times in 4 years was too much?

I'm so confused. First we're a lock for ND/OSU Fiesta, then we're not allowed because we've been too much....does this mean anything at all???

Yes I heard it. I don't think we are a lock. I don't even know that it is likely anymore. It's hard to tell what rumors are true and which aren't. I'd say that we are probably a lock for a BCS bowl...and that's about all right now.

cincibuck · Dec 2, 2005

High Lonesome said:
so oregon's head coach was just on the best damn sports show period "politicing" for oregon, and consequently against ohio state and ND. Mack Brown was absolutely fried after he did the same thing last year. I am just curious what everyone thinks will be the fall out of this. Will there even be a fallout? I believe that he is doing the right thing by pleading his case. I do, however hope that he fails in his quest.

Mack may have been fried, but Texas got the game.... I'm not asserting that Cal was the better team (and don't measure them by the team that got crushed in their bowl game, they were pretty banged up by then)... but it broke precedence in not selecting the Pac 10 Runner Up. It's that kind of thing that leads med to conclude that bowl game selections have more to do with politics than athletics.

BuckeyeNation27 · Dec 2, 2005

smithlabs said:
There is a contest going on in Cowherd land about which team is the least deserving of a BCS bowl. My daughter really wants an Ipod so I put together this entry. I am sure you'll will recognize the tune.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Lame Duck Battle Cry:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Old Notre Dame is so lame but the media loves them[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And you can't deny the battle cry of the Big Ten Champions[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]But out in Eugene, when the Ducks played the Trojans[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The men of Troy made the fowls look like boys again and again![/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Give up on the BCS[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Settle for the Holiday[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Perhaps you could win that game[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Just like Montana State[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]COME ON OREGON![/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]You just have nine victories[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Playing division one foes![/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The sole quality win was a three point margin 'gainst twenty second Fresno![/FONT]

i just missed the entry, did you win?

DaddyBigBucks · Dec 2, 2005

BuckeyeNation27 said:
i just missed the entry, did you win?

The winner was an incredibly lame take off of "Grandma got run over by a reindeer". No insult intended to the person who wrote it; part of the cheesiness came from the intentionally bad production of it that Colin Cowherd's crew made. It was bloody awful.

UGABuck · Dec 2, 2005

Bucklion said:
His name wasn't Bernard Rubble was it? :tongue2:

I am laughing my ass off!!!! That's a blast from the past.:)

Carmen Ohio · Dec 2, 2005

The Buckeye Planet content is blocked from where I am now so forgive me if someone else has posted this... just one guy's change of heart:

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</NOBR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Notre Dame vs. Ohio State
There, I said it.
Now before all the Ohio State hate mail turns into Oregon hate mail, let me explain.
With just a few days before all the bowl matchups are announced, I've finally given up on my Oregon to the Fiesta Bowl prediction.
After working the phones all week and talking to numerous bowl officials, the overwhelming opinion is that Ohio State is pretty much a slam dunk to earn that at-large spot.
Despite going 10-1 and a heavy pressure from Oregon and the Pac-10, the Ducks are going to be relegated to the Holiday Bowl.

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Even though the Buckeyes will be making its third Tempe apperance in the past four years, the thought of having two of the biggest programs in the nation meeting for only the fifth time in history is too big to pass up.
Add in these three facts: John Junker, the head of the Fiesta Bowl, rooted for the Buckeyes as a child; Fiesta Bowl CFO Stan Laybourne graduated from Ohio State. Buckeyes A.D. Gene Smith used to be a Fiesta Bowl board member.
It's going to take a lot of money from Oregon gradutate and Nike co-founder Phil Knight to overcome that trio.
A few weeks ago, I really believed the Fiesta Bowl was going to cave to the pressure of the Pacific-10 and pass on the Buckeyes.
But the folks in Tempe can't afford to have another dog game. Since 1990, 11 games have been decided by 17 points or more. Oregon vs. Notre Dame has the bigger potential to be a blowout than Ohio State vs. Notre Dame.
The BCS bowls are also not about giving bids to the most deserving teams, they are about providing a matchup that will provide excitement for TV ratings, fans and media coverage.
Ohio State vs. Notre Dame does that in every aspect.
I know many "average" college football fans and Oregon vs. Notre Dame to them is ho-hum, while Ohio State vs. Notre Dame is a "big-time" matchup.
Sorry Ducks, maybe next year.

News and Notes

The Holiday Bowl is waiting to see what happens to Oregon and the BCS, but if Ohio State grabs that at-large, Oregon will most likely matchup with Oklahoma in San Diego. If Oregon earns a BCS bid, the Holiday Bowl will take UCLA, but not Oklahoma. The Sooners and Bruins already played this season, meaning Nebraska is most likely headed to San Diego. If UCLA upsets USC, the Bruins probably get the bid over Oregon.
Florida State is looking at either a BCS bowl or the Champs Sports Bowl. If it beats Virginia Tech in the ACC Championship, the Seminioles will land in the Orange Bowl. If they lose, they will most likely fall all the way to the Champs Sports Bowl on Dec. 27. The Seminoles were most likely headed to the Peach Bowl a few weeks ago, but a loss would give them four consecutive losses.
With the MAC having only two bowl slots and Toledo already accepting a bid to the GMAC Bowl, the winner of the Northern Illinois-Akron title game will earn a spot in the Motor City Bowl. The loser will most likely be left out.
Nevada is bowl eligible for the first time since 1996 and is drawing interest from three bowls. The Wolf Pack is most likely headed to the Hawaii Bowl, but if Oregon earns the Fiesta Bowl slot, Nevada will meet BYU in the Las Vegas Bowl.

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buckeyeboy · Dec 2, 2005

High Lonesome said:
so oregon's head coach was just on the best damn sports show period "politicing" for oregon, and consequently against ohio state and ND. Mack Brown was absolutely fried after he did the same thing last year. I am just curious what everyone thinks will be the fall out of this. Will there even be a fallout? I believe that he is doing the right thing by pleading his case. I do, however hope that he fails in his quest.

That's not all Oregon has done. They sent their A.D. and coach (I think it was those two) to Tempe the week after we beat scUM to grovel, beg, whatever you want to call it. Not to mention the 1/2 page ads they took out in USA Today advertising the team's players.

I said it last year, and I'll say it again--I don't like coaches taking such actions. BCS spots should be rewarded by on-field merit, not by which school has the best lobbyists. I'm proud of JT for not doing such things, but rather letting our actions on the field speak for themselves.

timBUCK2 · Dec 2, 2005

Carmen Ohio said:
But the folks in Tempe can't afford to have another dog game. Since 1990, 11 games have been decided by 17 points or more. Oregon vs. Notre Dame has the bigger potential to be a blowout than Ohio State vs. Notre Dame.

The BCS bowls are also not about giving bids to the most deserving teams, they are about providing a matchup that will provide excitement for TV ratings, fans and media coverage.

I was going to comment on this until I realized that it's not worth commenting on... Ohio State was probably more likely to go to Tempe back when this 'expert' was 'certain' that it was going to Oregon... :roll1:

NightmaresDad · Dec 2, 2005

"But the folks in Tempe can't afford to have another dog game. Since 1990, 11 games have been decided by 17 points or more. Oregon vs. Notre Dame has the bigger potential to be a blowout than Ohio State vs. Notre Dame."

Yeah, I assume he thinks that ND is sure to win, but will not blow us out as bad as they would Oregon. what a tool.
However, he could mean, given the tone of his op-ed, that Oregon would blow out ND worse than tOSU will.
Of course, my opinion is that tOSU has a good chance of blowing out either team. If his definition of a "dog game' is > 17 point spread, then get ready to hear some barkin'!

Has anyone seen any hypothetical betting lines? I would think tOSU will be favored against ND.

BCS Chances (El Gigante Merge)

NOTREDAMECHIEF

Legend

DaddyBigBucks

Administrator

LRABuck

Proud to be a Buckeye

sandgk

Watson, Crick & A Twist

methomps

an imbecility, a stupidity without name

sandgk

Watson, Crick & A Twist

JXC

17-4 since 2001

cincibuck

You kids stay off my lawn!

BuckeyeNation27

Goal Goal USA!

DaddyBigBucks

Administrator

UGABuck

All-American

Carmen Ohio

All-American

buckeyeboy

Still fortitudinous

timBUCK2

Tim the Enchanter... WOLVERINE SLAYER!!

NightmaresDad

Woody Rules!