Game Thread BCS Championship Game, tOSU vs. Florida - Jan 8th

[lvbuckeye]

Only if the game plan called for him [Ted Ginn, Jr.] to get 375 yards or so.

well, at 93 yards per touch, he only needed 3 more touches to get there.

seriously. ANYONE on that team will tell you that Teddy is the key to that offense, Troy Smith included. what do you do when the guy who all of your schemes are built around is suddenly GONE? come up with a completely different plan on the fly? i understand that the D scheme was maybe played a little too soft, and i understand that you have to overcome adversity, but all that Florida speed looked like they had 28 pound shoes on when they were chasing him on that opening kickoff. they had no answer for TG2, and it was evident on his one touch.

i just feel devastated for the kids. to have 'The Fun Bunch' end in such an UN-fun way just really sucks...

(hey, at least we have an excuse. :p )

 

[Bucklion]

As a Miami fan, I couldn't help but feel a small sense of retribution while watching the game... You didn't go as far as handing out premature "Back-to-back-National-title-winner-party!" fliers as Miami did a few years ago, but it definitely seemed to me as if OSU expected to just waltz into Arizona and walk out with the championship.

It's a shame, too, because I was hoping to watch a competitive game.

You guys will get over it. As much as you'd love to win them all, you can't.

Anyway, I don't mean to cause any strife, but the only reason OSU was in the title game was because they started the season at number #1. OSU played a fairly weak schedule, with their two biggest wins coming against UM (UM scored 39 points against OSU's vaunted defense yet were held to just 18 points against USC) and UT (Who barely won their bowl game). I don't know what it is, but could anyone tell me what the win-loss record of the teams OSU played were? It has to be close to .500 if not below it (I could be wrong). It's easy to put up huge numbers when you're playing a bunch of no-name teams.

I highly doubt that OSU could have played UF's schedule and come out undefeated or with just one loss. This is just the bottom line. Sometimes you just have to grit your teeth and admit that your team wasn't/isn't as good as you previously thought. There's no shame in it. I'm sure every college football fan has had to do it at one point or another.

OSU met their first real test of the season and folded under pressure. It was a shame, too, as I was actually rooting for OSU (I dislike UF and FSU, for obvious reasons). Good luck with next year!

Er, uh, we played 3 teams that were ranked #2 at the time, and we beat 2 of them. UM went 11-2, Texas was 10-3, Penn State was 9-4...many of the "better" SEC teams lost bowl games to the Big Ten, and others like Auburn barely squeaked past inferior competition...so all credit to Florida, but other than LSU (and UF obviously), I'm not all that impressed with the "mighty" SEC, nor do I think our schedule was weak. We were the only undefeated team at the end of the season...saying we only made it because of our rank? WTF? Where would we have been ranked otherwise at 12-0 after beating 11-0 UM?

 

[TJnTN]

As a Miami fan, I couldn't help but feel a small sense of retribution while watching the game... You didn't go as far as handing out premature "Back-to-back-National-title-winner-party!" fliers as Miami did a few years ago, but it definitely seemed to me as if OSU expected to just waltz into Arizona and walk out with the championship.

It's a shame, too, because I was hoping to watch a competitive game.

You guys will get over it. As much as you'd love to win them all, you can't.

Anyway, I don't mean to cause any strife, but the only reason OSU was in the title game was because they started the season at number #1. OSU played a fairly weak schedule, with their two biggest wins coming against UM (UM scored 39 points against OSU's vaunted defense yet were held to just 18 points against USC) and UT (Who barely won their bowl game). I don't know what it is, but could anyone tell me what the win-loss record of the teams OSU played were? It has to be close to .500 if not below it (I could be wrong). It's easy to put up huge numbers when you're playing a bunch of no-name teams.

I highly doubt that OSU could have played UF's schedule and come out undefeated or with just one loss. This is just the bottom line. Sometimes you just have to grit your teeth and admit that your team wasn't/isn't as good as you previously thought. There's no shame in it. I'm sure every college football fan has had to do it at one point or another.

OSU met their first real test of the season and folded under pressure. It was a shame, too, as I was actually rooting for OSU (I dislike UF and FSU, for obvious reasons). Good luck with next year!

I agree that we didnt have the toughest schedule this year but that's only because the Big 10 had some disappointing teams such as Iowa this year and there is simply nothing you can do about that. You are required to play the teams in your conference. Other than that we attempt to schedule at least one or two solid teams in the top 25 each year......well besides next year. But look on down the road.....I believe we have USC and Miami coming up in future schedules. Your always going to have a few cupcakes on your schedule too I don't care who you are. My first year at Middle Tennessee State I can remember Middle played Florida. This was also MTSU's first year as a Division 1a team.......

 

[MiamiFan4Lyfe]

Er, uh, we played 3 teams that were ranked #2 at the time, and we beat 2 of them. UM went 11-2, Texas was 10-3, Penn State was 9-4...many of the "better" SEC teams lost bowl games to the Big Ten, and others like Auburn barely squeaked past inferior competition...so all credit to Florida, but other than LSU (and UF obviously), I'm not all that impressed with the "mighty" SEC, nor do I think our schedule was weak. We were the only undefeated team at the end of the season...saying we only made it because of our rank? WTF? Where would we have been ranked otherwise at 12-0 after beating 11-0 UM?

I did a bit of research: OSU's opponents went 87 - 76 (That's including FL. If you exclude FL, then OSU's opponents had 76 - 75 record). That's why people commonly say that OSU played a fairly cupcake schedule on their way to the national title. I still don't believe that OSU could have played UF's schedule and made it to national title game, but that's just me. OSU's a well coached team, but the fact is that they simply didn't match up against FL, for whatever reasons.

As of further interest, OSU's strength of schedule was ranked 78th in the nation; Florida was ranked 42nd.

Losing a bowl game doesn't necessarily determine a team's strength. There are other factors involved.

Anywho, I 'spose I should clarify my comment about OSU being ranked #1. Do you honestly believe that any other team could have played your schedule and gone to the national title if it wasn't ranked #1 at the beginning of the year? Yeah. OSU was undefeated, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they played a relatively weak schedule and were exposed when pitted against a far better team than they were accustomed to playing. I know people have made this allusion before, but this game was eerily similiar to the OK - USC game a few years back where OK was said to be the best team since the Miami Hurricane's Ken Dorsey era yet was simply humiliated by USC. It'll be interesting to see how OSU bounces back.

By the way... You weren't the only undefeated team. BSU also went undefeated, but they played a schedule easier than yours.

 

[TJnTN]

Er, uh, we played 3 teams that were ranked #2 at the time, and we beat 2 of them. UM went 11-2, Texas was 10-3, Penn State was 9-4...many of the "better" SEC teams lost bowl games to the Big Ten, and others like Auburn barely squeaked past inferior competition...so all credit to Florida, but other than LSU (and UF obviously), I'm not all that impressed with the "mighty" SEC, nor do I think our schedule was weak. We were the only undefeated team at the end of the season...saying we only made it because of our rank? WTF? Where would we have been ranked otherwise at 12-0 after beating 11-0 UM?

I'm not completely sold on LSU.....and I guess now that the season is over I will never be. They beat ND........whippiddee doo. We've all seen their defense play right?

I think if Ohio State plays a good game......not necessarily wins but doesnt play a game like they did last night.........no one even questions their validity. But you stink it up like that and of course your gonna have naysayers.

 

[TJnTN]

I did a bit of research: OSU's opponents went 87 - 76 (That's including FL. If you exclude FL, then OSU's opponents had 76 - 75 record). That's why people commonly say that OSU played a fairly cupcake schedule on their way to the national title. I still don't believe that OSU could have played UF's schedule and made it to national title game, but that's just me.

As of further interest, OSU's strength of schedule was ranked 78th in the nation; Florida was ranked 42nd.

Losing a bowl game doesn't necessarily determine a team's strength. There are other factors involved.

Anywho, I 'spose I should clarify my comment about OSU being ranked #1. Do you honestly believe that any other team could have played your schedule and gone to the National title if it wasn't ranked #1 at the beginning of the year? Yeah. OSU was undefeated, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they played a relatively weak schedule and were exposed when pitted against a far better team than they were accustomed to playing.

By the way... You weren't the only undefeated team. BSU also went undefeated, but they played a schedule easier than yours.

We did play 3 #2's. Guess you'll have to have a little talk with the pollsters and voters first before i take any of this to heart. Teams and conferences have good and bad years........Schedules aren't made the day before the season starts remember...........

 

[Bucklion]

I did a bit of research: OSU's opponents went 87 - 76 (That's including FL. If you exclude FL, then OSU's opponents had 76 - 75 record). That's why people commonly say that OSU played a fairly cupcake schedule on their way to the national title. I still don't believe that OSU could have played UF's schedule and made it to national title game, but that's just me.

As of further interest, OSU's strength of schedule was ranked 78th in the nation; Florida was ranked 42nd.

Losing a bowl game doesn't necessarily determine a team's strength. There are other factors involved.

Anywho, I 'spose I should clarify my comment about OSU being ranked #1. Do you honestly believe that any other team could have played your schedule and gone to the National title if it wasn't ranked #1 at the beginning of the year? Yeah. OSU was undefeated, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they played a relatively weak schedule and were exposed when pitted against a far better team than they were accustomed to playing.

By the way... You weren't the only undefeated team. BSU also went undefeated, but they played a schedule easier than yours.

Florida's OOC consisted of 3 teams that went 20-19 and I-AA Western Carolina. With the exception of LSU, we certainly could have beaten all of the other SEC teams (or did you miss the 2 bowl lossesd New Year's Day and the 17-14 snoozer for Auburn) they played. And gee, Florida didn't go undefeated through their schedule either, and they still made the NC game.

And if you are honsetly asking whether a team could have gone undefeated in one of the BCS conferences this season and not made the title game, you are dumber than you sound. If you want to have SOS arguments, go to the ND boards...they love that kind of thing.

By the way, how was that blue carpet?

 

[Bucklion]

I did a bit of research: OSU's opponents went 87 - 76 (That's including FL. If you exclude FL, then OSU's opponents had 76 - 75 record). That's why people commonly say that OSU played a fairly cupcake schedule on their way to the national title. I still don't believe that OSU could have played UF's schedule and made it to national title game, but that's just me. OSU's a well coached team, but the fact is that they simply didn't match up against FL, for whatever reasons.

As of further interest, OSU's strength of schedule was ranked 78th in the nation; Florida was ranked 42nd.

Losing a bowl game doesn't necessarily determine a team's strength. There are other factors involved.

Anywho, I 'spose I should clarify my comment about OSU being ranked #1. Do you honestly believe that any other team could have played your schedule and gone to the national title if it wasn't ranked #1 at the beginning of the year? Yeah. OSU was undefeated, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they played a relatively weak schedule and were exposed when pitted against a far better team than they were accustomed to playing. I know people have made this allusion before, but this game was eerily similiar to the OK - USC game a few years back where OK was said to be the best team since the Miami Hurricane's Ken Dorsey era yet was simply humiliated by USC. It'll be interesting to see how OSU bounces back.

By the way... You weren't the only undefeated team. BSU also went undefeated, but they played a schedule easier than yours.

You mean the Ken Dorsey team that lost to Ohio State? What was that, a year or two before that? Wow, that's REALLY saying something right there...

Jeezus, who knows, 2007 LSU or USC might just be the best team since...2006 Florida

 

[OCBucksFan]

And if you are honsetly asking whether a team could have gone undefeated in one of the BCS conferences this season and not made the title game, you are dumber than you sound. If you want to have SOS arguments, go to the ND boards...they love that kind of thing.

This pretty much hits the nail on the head, if BS had been in a BCS conference they would have been entitled to a shot at the National Title game, but as it stands since they are part of the WAC (Or Mac, not sure) they are not entitled to that chance.

ANY TEAM who finished in one of the six BCS conferences would have gotten into the NC, heck, there was a point where people were talking about a potential Rutgers V tOSU for the NC.

Florida got in because all the chips fell thier way, and much like the Bucks did a few years ago, they made the best of the opportunity and props to them for that.

But if friggin Iowa goes undefeated this year instead of tOSU they would be in the same exact spot.

 

[Moose]

Thanks Mods,and my apologies for losing it. It won't happen again....

 

[MiamiFan4Lyfe]

Florida's OOC consisted of 3 teams that went 20-19 and I-AA Western Carolina. With the exception of LSU, we certainly could have beaten all of the other SEC teams (or did you miss the 2 bowl lossesd New Year's Day and the 17-14 snoozer for Auburn) they played. And gee, Florida didn't go undefeated through their schedule either, and they still made the NC game.

And if you are honsetly asking whether a team could have gone undefeated in one of the BCS conferences this season and not made the title game, you are dumber than you sound. If you want to have SOS arguments, go to the ND boards...they love that kind of thing.

By the way, how was that blue carpet?

First of all, strength of schedule is determined before the college football season begins, not afterwards as you and a few others seem to think. While you have to play conference opponents, you are allowed a bit of freedom in scheduling non-conference opponents (Hence why Michigan's SoS was better than OSU's).

Second of all, I never said that no school could go undefeated in a BCS conference; I stated that OSU wouldn't go undefeated nor make it to the national title game if they played in the SEC, and I can say that with 100% certainty.

I'm not a SEC fan, but competition in the SEC is far above the competition in the Big 10. While, yes, a few SEC teams did have a down year they're still consistently better than the Big 10 (Which should be renamed the Big 3).

Oh. And in college football there are a such thing as style points. ND loses the big games and usually needs some heroic fourth quarter comeback to beat the teams they should have easily crushed.

 

[MiamiFan4Lyfe]

You mean the Ken Dorsey team that lost to Ohio State? What was that, a year or two before that? Wow, that's REALLY saying something right there...

Jeezus, who knows, 2007 LSU or USC might just be the best team since...2006 Florida

Yeah. Let's also leave out the fact that Miami was the defending national champions, were riding a 34 game win streak and are/were generally considered to be one of the better football teams in college football.

That really IS saying something!

 

[ekeen]

41-14. Yet hearing TBDBITL play Carmen Ohio still gives me chills. Wouldn't wanna be anywhere else than here. :osu:

I still get choked up when I sing Carmen Ohio at the football games. One of the privileges an OSU student has while walking through the Oval is hearing the Carmen Ohio chimes of Orton Hall. I never thought about that until just now and I still see myself as that content college freshman walking through the Oval.

 

[osugrad21]

and I can say that with 100% certainty.

Nice to meet you God.

Your 100% certainty is complete opinion...therefore, I can say with 100% certainty that you have no clue as your speculation/bias is just as obvious.

Don't play that game here today...worry about your own program and the disarray in Coral Gables.

Last warning.

Yeah. Let's also leave out the fact that Miami was the defending national champions, were riding a 34 game win streak and are/were generally considered to be one of the better football teams in college football.

That really IS saying something!

Weren't you in the Big Least back then?

Great ammo, pal.

 

[BUCKYLE]

First of all, strength of schedule is determined before the college football season begins, not afterwards as you and a few others seem to think. While you have to play conference opponents, you are allowed a bit of freedom in scheduling non-conference opponents (Hence why Michigan's SoS was better than OSU's).

?????

Seriously...you're drunk, right?

BTW, we played Texas. The reason Michigans SOS is better is cause they played Wisky.