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The 1st place votes are all over the place.
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The 1st place votes are all over the place.
He was on "QB1" on Netflix and seemed like a genuinely good kid too.
Best wishes to the young man!
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Quality football player as well as person by all accounts. Gutted for him this season he was going to make some money for next years draft.
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ScriptOhio
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QB Sam Hartman Cleared to Return
Wake Forest's QB1 is ready to return to action after dealing with a non-football injury
The redshirt junior had been out with a non-football injury since Aug. 10. After early fears that Hartman would be out for the majority of the season, he is back after just one missed game.
Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/wake-forest/football/qb-sam-hartman-to-start-vs-vanderbilt
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ScriptOhio
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McMurphy: ACC at Crossroads as 'Magnificent 7' Seeks More Revenue
Check out Brett McMurphy's column about where the ACC sits as the "Magnificent 7" schools seek more revenue or a way out of the conference.
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McMurphy: ACC at Crossroads as ‘Magnificent 7’ Seeks More Revenue
On the first day of the ACC’s spring meetings at the Ritz-Carlton Amelia Island, the league’s “Magnificent 7” was exposed.
News broke that officials from the “Magnificent 7” schools — Clemson, Florida State, Miami, UNC, NC State, Virginia and Virginia Tech — had been working behind the scenes for weeks.
They were trying to figure out ways to (a) increase revenue because they believe they bring significantly more value to the league and (b) perhaps devise a way to make a clean break from the ACC and form their own conference.
To do so, the biggest hurdle (mountain) to clear is the league’s supposedly ironclad Grant of Rights, which runs through 2036.
On Wednesday, two days after my “Magnificent 7” tweet, the meetings concluded. Officials from all 14 schools and commissioner Jim Phillips put on their happy faces. They laughed and smiled. There was renewed optimism all around.
Publicly, they said all the right things about their renewed commitment and desire to make it work. The only thing missing was a verse of “Kumbaya.”
Privately, it’s a much different story. The late, great Meat Loaf’s “Paradise by the Dashboard Light” provides a more realistic view of the schools’ view of the ACC’s Grant of Rights.
An ACC athletic director told me that was “a pretty good comparison — and not a bad song. That sums it up rather nicely.”
The three days of meetings didn’t result in the “Magnificent 7” receiving a “get out of ACC jail” card, but they did succeed in moving closer to an unequal revenue distribution model based on performance. This will reward the more successful programs that make the College Football Playoff, bowl games and NCAA Tournament appearances.
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The most lucrative option for ACC schools is to join the Big Ten or SEC, where they would earn at least $30 million more a year in media rights annually than they do currently. However, there’s no guarantee anyone can decipher (or financially navigate and survive) the ACC’s Grant of Rights or if the Big Ten or SEC want to expand beyond 16 schools.
What can the ACC do as a league?
The only way the ACC can receive significantly more money from ESPN is by expanding. Sources told Action Network that if the ACC adds additional teams — whether from the Power 5 or Group of Five — ESPN contractually must pay the ACC a pro-rata amount for each new member.
The ACC, if it desired, could add four more schools (almost certainly Group of Five programs), pay them a reduced amount and split the remaining revenue between the existing members. However, that likely would only increase the current membership’s revenue by a few million dollars a year until the new members would earn full shares.
That scenario is unlikely, a source said.
“We already have too many mouths to feed,” the source said. “That’s not the answer.”
What is? Will an ACC school — or schools — challenge the Grant of Rights and find a lifeline in the Big Ten or SEC? Can the “Magnificent 7” recruit more members and band together to find a way to dissolve the conference?
It depends on how frustrated the schools get with the ever-widening revenue gap. For now, the ACC schools should be prepared to be stuck together “until the end of time” or until they can find a way out of the Grant of Rights. Whichever comes first.
Just sayin':
1. Clemson, Florida State, Miami, UNC, NC State, Virginia and Virginia Tech = "Magnificent 7" and they want a bigger share of the ACC's "financial pie".
2. The ACC is just trying to hold on to a distant 3rd place behind the B1G and SEC
3. Maryland should be thanking their "lucky stars" that got out of the ACC and into the B1G
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McMurphy: ACC at Crossroads as 'Magnificent 7' Seeks More Revenue
Check out Brett McMurphy's column about where the ACC sits as the "Magnificent 7" schools seek more revenue or a way out of the conference.McMurphy: ACC at Crossroads as ‘Magnificent 7’ Seeks More Revenue
On the first day of the ACC’s spring meetings at the Ritz-Carlton Amelia Island, the league’s “Magnificent 7” was exposed.
News broke that officials from the “Magnificent 7” schools — Clemson, Florida State, Miami, UNC, NC State, Virginia and Virginia Tech — had been working behind the scenes for weeks.
They were trying to figure out ways to (a) increase revenue because they believe they bring significantly more value to the league and (b) perhaps devise a way to make a clean break from the ACC and form their own conference.
To do so, the biggest hurdle (mountain) to clear is the league’s supposedly ironclad Grant of Rights, which runs through 2036.
On Wednesday, two days after my “Magnificent 7” tweet, the meetings concluded. Officials from all 14 schools and commissioner Jim Phillips put on their happy faces. They laughed and smiled. There was renewed optimism all around.
Publicly, they said all the right things about their renewed commitment and desire to make it work. The only thing missing was a verse of “Kumbaya.”
Privately, it’s a much different story. The late, great Meat Loaf’s “Paradise by the Dashboard Light” provides a more realistic view of the schools’ view of the ACC’s Grant of Rights.
An ACC athletic director told me that was “a pretty good comparison — and not a bad song. That sums it up rather nicely.”
The three days of meetings didn’t result in the “Magnificent 7” receiving a “get out of ACC jail” card, but they did succeed in moving closer to an unequal revenue distribution model based on performance. This will reward the more successful programs that make the College Football Playoff, bowl games and NCAA Tournament appearances.
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continued
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The most lucrative option for ACC schools is to join the Big Ten or SEC, where they would earn at least $30 million more a year in media rights annually than they do currently. However, there’s no guarantee anyone can decipher (or financially navigate and survive) the ACC’s Grant of Rights or if the Big Ten or SEC want to expand beyond 16 schools.
What can the ACC do as a league?
The only way the ACC can receive significantly more money from ESPN is by expanding. Sources told Action Network that if the ACC adds additional teams — whether from the Power 5 or Group of Five — ESPN contractually must pay the ACC a pro-rata amount for each new member.
The ACC, if it desired, could add four more schools (almost certainly Group of Five programs), pay them a reduced amount and split the remaining revenue between the existing members. However, that likely would only increase the current membership’s revenue by a few million dollars a year until the new members would earn full shares.
That scenario is unlikely, a source said.
“We already have too many mouths to feed,” the source said. “That’s not the answer.”
What is? Will an ACC school — or schools — challenge the Grant of Rights and find a lifeline in the Big Ten or SEC? Can the “Magnificent 7” recruit more members and band together to find a way to dissolve the conference?
It depends on how frustrated the schools get with the ever-widening revenue gap. For now, the ACC schools should be prepared to be stuck together “until the end of time” or until they can find a way out of the Grant of Rights. Whichever comes first.
Just sayin':
1. Clemson, Florida State, Miami, UNC, NC State, Virginia and Virginia Tech = "Magnificent 7" and they want a bigger share of the ACC's "financial pie".
2. The ACC is just trying to hold on to a distant 3rd place behind the B1G and SEC
3. Maryland should be thanking their "lucky stars" that got out of the ACC and into the B1G
I just don't know what schools in the ACC are desirable to the B1G and SEC. Its been argued that teams in states currently in SEC and B1G would fight against adding in state rivals. And few offer much that aren't already offered. Not sure why B1G would add any of that 7 teams except from what I've heard UVA or UNC. But not sure what Miami or Clemson would offer the B1G. And I don't see SEC adding additional teams in SC, and FL, and they could care less about NC, and VA.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Yeah, JMHO UVa and UNC would be good additions to the B1G (especially academically); but they would have to make sense financially too.
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dragurd
Head Coach
Them GT and and one of the Florida schools would make sense. ND, Stanford, Oregon, Washington. Is my preferred scenario. At that point if doesn't matter what the others do.
Not sure it will ever get there at this rate. Cause some of those schools are nice to have brands or recruiting areas what wouldn't actually pay for themselves.
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Clemson and FSU are in two of the worst hell holes in America. The limited number of eyeballs they would draw far exceeds the number of teeth that come with them. ORD could tell you better than me but I think they are also academically on par with you average community college.
Hard pass if I had a vote.
Hard pass if I had a vote.
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CincyInterloper
Hall of Fame
If the Mediocre Seven form their own conference, how long do you think it would be before Clemson and FSU bolted for the SEC and left the other five holding their dicks? Would they even play a single season?
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I have a buddy who's a Free Shoes fan, and he said their Admin are working hard to get them in the AAU. Clemson I'm not so sure about in their pursuit of AAU as I'm thinking they're hoping to just join the SEC in the end
Problem is, the SEC already has 2 programs that are stalwarts in the SEC from those areas already. And yes, the SEC added UT after having aTm in Texas. But the amount of money Texas will bring to the conference far exceeds what FSU and Clemson would. I'm sure the Mediocre 7 will find an eventual way out of the ACC but it will be a hard fought battle, as they don't have many teams that offer much
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