AAU Kicks Out Nebraska

[BUCKYLE]

I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, unless they absolve Jim Tressel of wrong-doing, but if most of the B10 voted Nebby out...or at the very least, didn't put up too much of a fight...is it possible it was sending a message for them to get their corn in a row?

 

[BB73]

I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, unless they absolve Jim Tressel of wrong-doing, but if most of the B10 voted Nebby out...or at the very least, didn't put up too much of a fight...is it possible it was sending a message for them to get their corn in a row?

Well, circling the wagons apparently wasn't good enough.

All I know, is, you are the state next to the state that has Wall Drug.

Carhenge is something they have all to themselves. Yes, I have been there.

Carhenge: a replica of Stonehenge built in a Nebraska field from old cars, supposedly with astronomical corrections for the local latitude.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Syracuse is out, too......"voluntarily".

http://chronicle.com/article/Syracuse-U-Facing-a-Forced/127363/?sid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en

Seems like it's the same kind of deal. Their research dollars don't come from the government....therefore it doesn't count as research.

 

[knapplc]

I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, unless they absolve Jim Tressel of wrong-doing, but if most of the B10 voted Nebby out...or at the very least, didn't put up too much of a fight...is it possible it was sending a message for them to get their corn in a row?

You would be incorrect. All but one Big Ten institution voted to keep Nebraska in the AAU, as did every AAU member in the Big 12. My guess would be that U of Chicago would be the lone dissenting vote among Big Ten schools, but I have no proof of that.

It only makes sense - the Big Ten voted unanimously last June to accept Nebraska into the Big Ten. They'd done their due diligence and knew all about our academics and our trajectory. Nebraska is a better school today than they were last year when the Big Ten voted us in. Knowing that, why would they suddenly, just before we officially join, turn on the school they just invited? Clearly they wouldn't.

 

[knapplc]

Syracuse is out, too......"voluntarily".

http://chronicle.com/article/Syracuse-U-Facing-a-Forced/127363/?sid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en

Seems like it's the same kind of deal. Their research dollars don't come from the government....therefore it doesn't count as research.

Yep. There was a chart posted here a while back, also from the Chronicle, that showed who received what federal monies for research. Nebraska was in the lower third of the chart, above several current AAU members.

We'll see if we're the last school out. My guess is, if the AAU has any integrity, they'll be showing several more schools the door in the coming months. If not, that sends a pretty clear message that UNL was targeted for this, whether because of our impending Big Ten membership or for some other obscure reason known only to those in the ivory towers of academia.


Here's that chart.

 

[alexhortdog95]

In the grand scheme of things....we know when the AAU folks were having their steak dinners, we were pissing in the cow's corn feed.

Here's a statement from Big Ten associate commissioner Jennifer Heppel:

"Nebraska is a substantial academic institution. It was when its application to join the Big Ten Conference was unanimously approved by the Big Ten Council of Presidents/Chancellors and it is today. The Big Ten Conference does not have control over other organizations' actions. We're excited for July 1st."

No surprise here as the Big Ten continues to support Nebraska, which officially enters the league July 1. Nebraska will be the only non-AAU member in the Big Ten.

Nebraska's predicament with the AAU -- chancellor Harvey Perlman told the Lincoln Journal Star that the school had been at risk of losing its membership for 10 years -- had to be on the Big Ten's radar, which suggests that other factors, like the school's nationally known football program, contributed to the move to the league.


Take that, Beeiotches.

 

[MaxBuck]

To me, the bottom line is this: Nebraska is not just a big-time football program, but an excellent academic and research university. This is notwithstanding the recent decision by the AAU. NU belongs in the B1G, no questions asked.

 

[Diego-Bucks]

We will have to see the longer-term effects of being in the CIC does to increase the other non-Agricultural aspects of UNL's research arm.

I'd imagine that the AAU will come calling back in the next 10-20 years once the wheels get rolling on the academic integration and faculty hires today really hit their stride. I would heavily consider doing my PhD at UNL as of today. Not saying they are UW, Berkeley or tOSU level, but they are high-quality. Just depends on the programs.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I disagree. The AAU decision is not the anomaly. Rather, it is the confirmation of what a lot of people said at the time of Nebraska's selection: that they were a horrible compromise on the academic front and immediately became the--without argument--weakest university in the CIC by a wide margin.

AAU membership was really the only thing on the academic side that Nebraska had going for them to make their selection palatable, and now that has been ripped from them.

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

I disagree. The AAU decision is not the anomaly. Rather, it is the confirmation of what a lot of people said at the time of Nebraska's selection: that they were a horrible compromise on the academic front and immediately became the--without argument--weakest university in the CIC by a wide margin.

AAU membership was really the only thing on the academic side that Nebraska had going for them to make their selection palatable, and now that has been ripped from them.

7/10 - needs more Corn Aggie/Nowledge

:p

 

[alexhortdog95]

I disagree. The AAU decision is not the anomaly. Rather, it is the confirmation of what a lot of people said at the time of Nebraska's selection: that they were a horrible compromise on the academic front and immediately became the--without argument--weakest university in the CIC by a wide margin.

AAU membership was really the only thing on the academic side that Nebraska had going for them to make their selection palatable, and now that has been ripped from them.

Come on. If you think that that AAU Membership was the #1 sticking point to UNL joining the Big 10, you're sadly mistaken....

 

[knapplc]

I disagree. The AAU decision is not the anomaly. Rather, it is the confirmation of what a lot of people said at the time of Nebraska's selection: that they were a horrible compromise on the academic front and immediately became the--without argument--weakest university in the CIC by a wide margin.

AAU membership was really the only thing on the academic side that Nebraska had going for them to make their selection palatable, and now that has been ripped from them.

Nebraska isn't on par with any school in the Big Ten right now, but neither was Penn State in 92. Look at them now. Expect similar things from Nebraska in the next ten-ish years.

I'm not going to blow sunshine up your ass and claim Nebraska is the Harvard of the Plains. We're not, not remotely. But we're not a bunch of knuckle-dragging morons, either. We're a fairly decent school, nothing more. We're ranked 47th by US News & World Report. It's nothing to brag about, but it's hardly an embarrassment.

If you're worried about Nebraska dragging down the Big Ten's overall academic credibility, you're mistaken.

And this AAU bullshit is political. Has very, very little to do with what Nebraska is as an academic institution.

 

[OSU_D/]

I disagree. The AAU decision is not the anomaly. Rather, it is the confirmation of what a lot of people said at the time of Nebraska's selection: that they were a horrible compromise on the academic front and immediately became the--without argument--weakest university in the CIC by a wide margin.

AAU membership was really the only thing on the academic side that Nebraska had going for them to make their selection palatable, and now that has been ripped from them.

So many of the people on this board think that UNL should "focus on what the state needs." Too bad the same people refuse to acknowledge that Iowa has pretty much the same demographics as Nebraska - yet Iowa finds a way to invest in other research than making the corn grow taller and more yellow. Somehow people refuse to see it isn't a Ag versus everything else situation. UNL can do other research and 9-1 decision by the committe before the larger vote is NOT all political.

 

[Gatorubet]

I disagree. The AAU decision is not the anomaly. Rather, it is the confirmation of what a lot of people said at the time of Nebraska's selection: that they were a horrible compromise on the academic front and immediately became the--without argument--weakest university in the CIC by a wide margin.

AAU membership was really the only thing on the academic side that Nebraska had going for them to make their selection palatable, and now that has been ripped from them.

ORD - were you abused anally by an ear of Nebraska corn as a lad? There seems to be some smoldering anger at the grit-suppliers that exceeds the perception of most other posters.

 

[MaxBuck]

... Iowa has pretty much the same demographics as Nebraska - yet Iowa finds a way to invest in other research than making the corn grow taller and more yellow.

Iowa benefits greatly from the fact its medical school (which is world-class) is co-located with the undergraduate campus, as is Ohio State's. The University of Nebraska med school is in Omaha, and so research dollars spent there do not "count" for UNL.

I doubt that Iowa would pass muster with AAU if its med campus were in Des Moines.