AAU Kicks Out Nebraska

[Mike80]

Perhaps UNL should realize that it can do other research than Ag Research (yes, I am aware UNL doesn't just do Ag Research). There are a lot of schools that do Ag Research in the AAU. This is a black eye to the selection of Nebraska for the Big 10.

I think UNL would say that they have a responsibility to their state to have ag research as one of their core functions. If they're being asked to either conduct ag research or do what's necessary to satisfy the AAU - there's no choice. First and foremost they have to do what best serves their state.

That's the point. It's NEBRASKA. Nebraska is the corn belt. Ag research is completely within the realm of what the state school should be doing

 

[OSU_D/]

That's a rather bone-headed statement and viewpoint. Someone has to make that area a focus, so why shouldn't it be a large research institution that's part of a major research consortium?

If you can point out where I said that UNL should abandon Ag Research then I will take back what I said.

What I did say is they should increase research in other areas. My point is other schools do Ag Research yet they can have other great research programs too.

OSU is a good example. OSU does Ag Research. OSU does other research. OSU didn't get kicked out of the AAU.

 

[scarletmike]

Why should they let the AAU dictate how much they dedicate to research that is important to their region and their state? They want to specialize in ag, and they shouldn't be penalized for it. They are being penalized for being an ag school, as far as I can tell.

 

[Mrstickball]

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Research dollars spent by university (Source): http://mup.asu.edu/research2009.pdf

(parenthesis denote overall ranking out of ~250 US universities)

Michigan - $808 million USD (5)
Ohio State - $720 million USD (9)
Minnesota - $624 million USD (12)
Penn State - $582 million USD (16)
Illinois - $474 million USD (26)
Northwestern - $443 million USD (32)
Purdue - $415 million USD (34)
Michigan State - $360 million USD (42)
Iowa - $363 million USD (41)
University of Chicago - $342 million USD (47)
Nebraska - $216 million USD (54)
Indiana - $110 million USD (127)

Interesting data. Twice as much as Indiana. If you added their medical center, it would jump up approximately $120 million USD, to an area similar to Chicago or Iowa.

 

[Gatorubet]

how do you know that?

I don't. I thought I read that all of the Big-10 supported dumping the corn, but one did not. My bad.

There is a chance that Bucky was the sole "no" on the committee vote to kick them out, and that they voted the same way on the general vote. But they could have voted "yes" and changed their minds on the general vote, and voted "no" - or noted "no" and switched to "yes".

Who is the most likely institution to have a soft spot for Nebraska? Iowa maybe, since a lot of their cows are related?

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

I don't. I thought I read that all of the Big-10 supported dumping the corn, but one did not. My bad.

There is a chance that Bucky was the sole "no" on the committee vote to kick them out, and that they voted the same way on the general vote. But they could have voted "yes" and changed their minds on the general vote, and voted "no" - or noted "no" and switched to "yes".

i see words, but i see no content.

 

[Gatorubet]

i see words, but i see no content.

What I meant to say was, Fuck Bucky!

 

[alexhortdog95]

Listen guys,

The reason why UNL doesn't have a medical research facility on the UNL campus is because the University of Nebraska medical campus is in OMAHA.

The school primarily does Ag research, not medical research. Makes more sense, because the school is located in Central Nebraska, more toward the majority of folks that will benefit from the research that the school does.

Many other universities across the country don't, quite frankly, see the need for the type of research that UNL does. Easy to say, when you don't think about the amount of research that goes into looking at what cows eat....you know, the ones that when you pull up to McDonalds or BK (or wherever) you are eating....?

I am one who is pleased with the work they do in the medical college. UNMC (University of Nebraska Medical Center). Apparently, others around the country are as well:

Four UNMC colleges or programs were listed in the U.S. News & World Report's ranking of America?s Best Graduate Schools 2009 including the College of Medicine?s primary care and rural health programs, which were both ranked in the top 20.

Nearly half of Nebraska's physicians, dental professionals, pharmacists, bachelor-prepared nurses and allied health professionals have graduated from UNMC.

UNMC opened the $52.7 million Michael F. Sorrell Center for Health Science Education in 2008. The Sorrell Center replaced obsolete facilities with technologically equipped classrooms and class laboratories, including clinical simulation rooms, interaction rooms, amphitheaters and a campus events center. Construction of the Sorrell Center was funded completely through private donations.

In January 2007, UNMC added a College of Public Health to its academic enterprise. This College addresses a variety of issues facing Nebraska, including health promotion and disease prevention, environmental health and safety, health care delivery, and biosecurity and biopreparedness. In 2011, the Harold M. and Beverly Maurer Center for Public Health will open. This 52,500-square-foot (4,880 m2) facility will house the college.

UNMC's College of Medicine ranked 17th in the United States in Primary Care according to US News & World Report in 2009 (linky: http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools)

So, this ain't about the research, or the work, or whatever crap they came up with to kick the school out of the AAU....it's all political, baby.

 

[alexhortdog95]

Here's another quote:

Article: http://chronicle.com/article/Ouster-Opens-a-Painful-Debate/127364/

Presidents say that in recent years discussions about membership in the association have become much more quantified, with an increasing emphasis on a rankings methodology developed by the membership committee and senior AAU staff. Last April the association as a whole adopted revised criteria that place an emphasis on federal research dollars.

"It was very clear that the easiest path to scoring high on the criteria is to have large medical schools or large science and engineering faculties," said Nancy Cantor, chancellor of Syracuse University, which was reviewed along with Nebraska and has decided to leave the AAU voluntarily in the coming months (see a related article).

All bout that almighty dolla, LOL. Piss on the fact folks are looking at how to raise disease resistant crops, or better feed for livestock and people. We wanna find out how to splice someone's genes with a freaking platypus or something.

Not to mention that ol' Harve didn't punk out like most chancellors around the country would.

Priorities, folks, LOL

 

[BB73]

Listen guys,

The reason why UNL doesn't have a medical research facility on the UNL campus is because the University of Nebraska medical campus is in OMAHA.

That's a fairly common occurrence among state universities. Indiana's is in Indianapolis, and Texas has its main medical center in Houston. It make no sense to me that any or all of those aren't counted.

 

[muffler dragon]

Makes more sense, because the school is located in Central Nebraska, more toward the majority of folks that will benefit from the research that the school does.

Unless you're attempting to say that UNK is the hub, you constitution towards geography is weak.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

That's a fairly common occurrence among state universities. Indiana's is in Indianapolis, and Texas has its main medical center in Houston. It make no sense to me that any or all of those aren't counted.

Which of course begs the question of why aren't IU, Berkeley or Texas in danger of ouster?

I should add that IU--with no med or engineering college--just might be; although I think the rest of the Big Ten would probably rally around them a lot harder than they did for corn aggy.

Berkeley will get booted the day Fredo of Ohio gets accepted, and if UT is in jeopordy, then pretty much any public u other than Berkeley, Michigan and UVA is probably in jeopardy.

 

[alexhortdog95]

Unless you're attempting to say that UNK is the hub, you constitution towards geography is weak.

And where do you live, or are you looking on a map?!?

 

[muffler dragon]

And where do you live, or are you looking on a map?!?

I live in Oregon, but I know Nebraska well enough to know that Lincoln ain't anywhere near the geographic center of the state.

 

[alexhortdog95]

US Highway 77 links Nebraska with Kansas and South Dakota (turns into 75 there).

Not to mention, most folk don't give a rat's azz what folk that don't actually live in Nebraska have to say about Nebraska.