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AAU Kicks Out Nebraska

Jake;1914860; said:
Hell, we might as well have invited Truck Driver State to join us.

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Nah - we already have a forklift driver school. It's what scUM players do after their college careers are over and/or when they strike out in the NFL.
 
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Dead last in the parameters the AAU measures, which are not all expenditures, or all research monies. Again, the AAU is simply devaluing the kind of research UNL does - primarily Ag research.

If we hadn't decided to split the UNMC from the UNL budget as a somewhat separate entity back in 1968 we wouldn't be having this discussion now. It was an administrative decision that they would never have made if they had known the ramifications.
 
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knapplc;1914871; said:
Dead last in the parameters the AAU measures, which are not all expenditures, or all research monies. Again, the AAU is simply devaluing the kind of research UNL does - primarily Ag research.

If we hadn't decided to split the UNMC from the UNL budget as a somewhat separate entity back in 1968 we wouldn't be having this discussion now. It was an administrative decision that they would never have made if they had known the ramifications.

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knapplc;1914871; said:
Dead last in the parameters the AAU measures, which are not all expenditures, or all research monies.
So - the "faculty credentials, awards and citations" thing is also wrong?

knapplc;1914871; said:
Again, the AAU is simply devaluing the kind of research UNL does - primarily Ag research.

Are you saying that your research money is not "federal resaerch" which was the term I think was used, but private funding - or that federal ag research $$$ is not counted, which it looks like you are alleging. Is so, link?

knapplc;1914871; said:
If we hadn't decided to split the UNMC from the UNL budget as a somewhat separate entity back in 1968 we wouldn't be having this discussion now. It was an administrative decision that they would never have made if they had known the ramifications.

Which is what I was insinuating earlier - you had a decade head's up to get that fixed - but were too busy building big, red nurf cowboy hats and "number one" fingers instead?
 
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Gatorubet;1914881; said:
Are you saying that your research money is not "federal resaerch" which was the term I think was used, but private funding - or that federal ag research $$$ is not counted, which it looks like you are alleging. Is so, link?

Quoted from the article in the 2nd post.

UNL joined the AAU in 1909. Perlman said UNL has ranked at the bottom of the AAU's members for more than a decade based on the group's ranking system, which ranks all research universities. That ranking system consists of four criteria: research expenditures, National Academy members, faculty awards (from a specified list) and citations.
Those criteria are weighted based on the number of tenure-track faculty at a particular university. Based on those criteria, a number of non-AAU institutions ranked higher than 15 AAU institutions, including UNL, Perlman said.
He said those four criteria unfairly disadvantaged UNL because the University of Nebraska system is organized with separate flagship (UNL) and medical campuses (the University of Nebraska Medical Center). Most AAU institutions have medical schools, which tend to garner large amounts of research dollars, Perlman said.
"With UNMC's research included we would have had research expenditures above many other AAU institutions," he said.
Another disadvantage that UNL faced was that the AAU devalues agricultural research and doesn't allow member universities to include research funded by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, a major source of funding for UNL. However, the association does count agricultural faculty when weighting rankings, Perlman said.
"Because of our strong commitment as a land-grant institution to serving the State of Nebraska, we are seriously disadvantaged within the AAU ranking system," he said.
 
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knapplc;1914871; said:
Dead last in the parameters the AAU measures, which are not all expenditures, or all research monies. Again, the AAU is simply devaluing the kind of research UNL does - primarily Ag research.

If we hadn't decided to split the UNMC from the UNL budget as a somewhat separate entity back in 1968 we wouldn't be having this discussion now. It was an administrative decision that they would never have made if they had known the ramifications.

Perhaps UNL should realize that it can do other research than Ag Research (yes, I am aware UNL doesn't just do Ag Research). There are a lot of schools that do Ag Research in the AAU. This is a black eye to the selection of Nebraska for the Big 10.
 
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OSU_D/;1914938; said:
Perhaps UNL should realize that it can do other research than Ag Research (yes, I am aware UNL doesn't just do Ag Research). There are a lot of schools that do Ag Research in the AAU. This is a black eye to the selection of Nebraska for the Big 10.

I think UNL would say that they have a responsibility to their state to have ag research as one of their core functions. If they're being asked to either conduct ag research or do what's necessary to satisfy the AAU - there's no choice. First and foremost they have to do what best serves their state.
 
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OSU_D/;1914938; said:
Perhaps UNL should realize that it can do other research than Ag Research (yes, I am aware UNL doesn't just do Ag Research). There are a lot of schools that do Ag Research in the AAU. This is a black eye to the selection of Nebraska for the Big 10.

That's a rather bone-headed statement and viewpoint. Someone has to make that area a focus, so why shouldn't it be a large research institution that's part of a major research consortium?
 
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