A Few Post-Game Thougthts....

[Buckin' A]

Hey folks we are all upset and hurting but please stop fighting amongst each other. Don't rip someone for venting and giving their opinion. Others have good siteful things to say and if they don't leave them alone don't rip them. Its low class and you're only hurting another fellow buckeye fan it makes no sense. Remember we do have freedom of speech. Last time I checked its a constitutional right and by ripping people you are trying to suppress it. Let them talk and vent. They are entitled to it. If you don't like want they say just skip the post. They aren't forcing you to reading.

Are you calling for a group hug?

 

[Wingate1217]

I really thought I was stuck in a time warp last night and transported back to the Earle Bruce Days. Back then as a student I watched our defense philosophy of "bend and don't break" during most of the games and it really made me sick to my stomach. It was the days of the Buckeye unit learning how to defend the pass. I watched John Elway and several others carve us up in the stadium by us playing a soft zone the whole game. Admittedly Chris Leak is not John Elway but we made him look like him last night by not forcing him to make quick decisions. We sat back waiting for Leak and the rest of the offense to make a mistake (dropped passes, fumbles, deflected passes for an interception) and they never did and we never adjusted.

 

[daddyphatsacs]

What else can be said? It just wasn't our night last night for whatever reason. No sense in dwelling on it, it won't change anything. It's only just a game, there are a lot more things in life that are more important. I sat and thought about that last night as I watched the Buckeyes get throttled. I didn't find myself getting that upset, because I know that it is just part of the cycle of college football. Sure, it sucks to lose, but then again if you never lost games it would take away the sweetness of victory. It was our time to lose last night. We've been riding a good wave for some time now. Hats off to Florida they played with the same fire that our team played with in prior games. Perhaps it will ground some of these boys a bit........and it will also signal who the true fans are. To me, it's just a bump in the road.........I know that there is always next year.

I can assure you one thing. We'll be back.......sometimes you learn more from a game like this then you do after a win.

 

[scarletngray]

SHOCK and AWE

I'm still numb after last nights game. It reminded me of a UFC fight where two champions step into the octagon. One champ is clearly favored over the other. He's the guy I'm rooting for. Fight starts and he throws his first punch and just knocks the another guy on his a$$. Everyone thinks, "man, this is going to be a major butt kicking."

And sure enough, it was. The other guy gets off the canvas, and until the final bell, just dismantles the other guy round after round after round.

And I sit there shocked and say to myself, "How in the hell did that just happen?"

 

[OregonBuckeye]

Well, I tried to sleep...tried to stay away from BP...tried to collect some thoughts without venting too much. However, all I can really come up with is being on the bad end of an "Out"

Out-schemed
Out-adjusted
Out-disciplined
Out-played
Out-Hearted
Out-Muscled
...and I hate to say it, but Out-coached.

I think that sums it up. Tressel is so amazing in big games that I was in aw of what was happening. It seemed like he never made the right adjustments. We rushed only 4 the entire game despite the picking us apart underneath. We just looked like a team with their heads cut off.

I haven't been able to watch a second of ESPN or go to ESPN.com or SI.com. When I think about how Troy has to go out it hurts bad.

I'd like to add that I think we can all appreciate what Ted Ginn does for our offense. He is our best reciever. Even when Troy had time he had no one to throw to because Florida just smothered our recievers not having to worry about the deep ball. Do I think we would've won if he was playing? Doubtful but atleast we would've had a chance.

Oh, and one last thing. Field position was abysmal. It seamed like they were starting around our 30 every posession.

It was a night where absolutely everything that could go wrong did. It feels just wrong that our seniors have to go out with a performance like that. We know they're much better than that.

All the credit goes to Florida.

 

[BrutusMaximus]

Think everything has been summed up for the most part. I saw a team that didnt realize they were going to be playing last night, and coaching that was along the lines of......"ok we are not doing to well here, here, and here, so let's just keep doing what we're doing, and hope for the best". Didnt see a single adjustment all night long. That was the main problem. The offensive play calling was so basic and had no imagination. The defense........I dont even wanna go there, that was atrocious. I think we coulda put together a team on here and moved the ball right down the field against that coverage. No blitzes for the most part. Coverage dropping 10-12 yards off each receiver, allowing simple 10 yard completions underneath, all game long. Really cant even think of a thing that was done right by the Bucks last night honestly. Cept for Ginn's return of course.

But oh well, there is always next year. I already am sad that it's over.

What depressed me the most was watching posters from other teams getting smacked down on here for doing basically nothing. That needs to stop, and stop now, before this place gets the rep of BN. But that discussion is probably for another thread.

 

[mooktarr]

After last night all I can say is Thank you Buckeyes.

 

[TJnTN]

I think that sums it up. Tressel is so amazing in big games that I was in aw of what was happening. It seemed like he never made the right adjustments. We rushed only 4 the entire game despite the picking us apart underneath. We just looked like a team with their heads cut off.

I haven't been able to watch a second of ESPN or go to ESPN.com or SI.com. When I think about how Troy has to go out it hurts bad.

I'd like to add that I think we can all appreciate what Ted Ginn does for our offense. He is our best reciever. Even when Troy had time he had no one to throw to because Florida just smothered our recievers not having to worry about the deep ball. Do I think we would've won if he was playing? Doubtful but atleast we would've had a chance.

Oh, and one last thing. Field position was abysmal. It seamed like they were starting around our 30 every posession.

It was a night where absolutely everything that could go wrong did. It feels just wrong that our seniors have to go out with a performance like that. We know they're much better than that.

All the credit goes to Florida.

Well said....

Now, for the comment by the Florida player about 3-4 other SEC teams being able to beat us......I'd say pretty much any team in the Big 10, SEC, PAC-10, Big 12, etc, etc, etc......could beat us when we play like that. Classy comment though! =P

 

[OCBucksFan]

[quote='BusNative;71205;0]I don't know that they ran many trick plays. There I think there was 1 planned counter, 1 coutner that PH decided to run the other way, 1 Tebow misdirection and a few surprising option plays ran for Leak instead of Tebow.

They ran 2,492,039,482 passes over the middle for good gains and several outside screen/pitch/short passes for moderate yards. They nickel and dimed their way up and down the field and punched it in the end zone with short passes on blown coverages (Jenkins twice) and hard runs. None of that was tricky.[/quote]

Maybe not trick plays but thier plays in general had a lot of deception to them. The three wide-out, no half back running plays confused the hell out of me.

And yeah, that over the center for 5-10 yards each time was annoying me as well, our pass coverage in general just sucked last night, Leak completed like 8 of his first ten passes.

I accept that Florida is a good team and that they beat us, what I have trouble accepting is that they made the Bucks look that bad. Last night the team had no business playing in that game. I don't think that losing Ginn during the game could have that effect, I think it the team fell into the same trap that Miami did in 2002.

 

[coastalbuck]

Thank you!

 

[BB73]

Florida had a better game-plan and executed better. The loss of Ted was significant, since Florida was able to often double Gonzo after that, and Troy didn't have enough time to find anybody open.

There's a difference between speed and quickness. The quickness of their D-line was obviously a major factor last night. And they consistenly won third down on both sides of the ball.

On the 4th and 1 in the first half - Troy had fumbled the ball on the third down sneak, that's why that play didn't work. On fourth down they didn't need to measure because the ball was short of the 30.

I'm disappointed but not devastated like I was after the 1976 Rose Bowl against UCLA.

It was surely better to win The Game and lose last night than to have lost on Nov. 18th. In retrospect, it's too bad Louisville lost to Rutgers, they would have been a good opponent last night. :tongue2:

Kudos to Florida for a great game - and being the unprecedented simultaneous title-holders in basketball and football. Like their ditty says, "It's great to be a Florida Gator..." (I was surrounded by that at the end of the game). Their fans at the stadium were generally classy.

 

[Thump]

Hey folks we are all upset and hurting but please stop fighting amongst each other. Don't rip someone for venting and giving their opinion. Others have good siteful things to say and if they don't leave them alone don't rip them. Its low class and you're only hurting another fellow buckeye fan it makes no sense. Remember we do have freedom of speech. Last time I checked its a constitutional right and by ripping people you are trying to suppress it. Let them talk and vent. They are entitled to it. If you don't like want they say just skip the post. They aren't forcing you to reading.

Ok then, Alex Boone sucked and looked like he was running in cement last night.

Does that sound classy?

 

[stowfan]

GRAD Said
If you've been around here for any length of time, you know that I always defend the coaches...being in the fire is certainly different than the view from the couch

I couldn't agree more, there is no coach I would perfer to JT. That being said I think last night has to be laid at JT's feet. The only other time I was really disappointed with JT was the night game we lost at Wisky in 03.

Somewhere in the first half JT forgot what he knows so well, you win by contoling the line of scrimage, and the battle of field position. Dispite having our doors blown, off at one point we were only down 21-14. I was hoping JT would have taken a page from his 2005 Michigan book and put Schaffer or anther huge body in at TE and just mash until the swager was gone and legs rubbery. I know it's easy on the couch.

IMHO Troy was having a bad night on top of the coverage and pass rush.
More than once in the first half Troy had at least a little open field if he pulled the down and took the five or six yards. Again life on the couch is good.

I'll spare you my thought on the D, but thank you for allowing me to rant.

 

[JoJaBuckeye]

Would someone please hit me and wake me up from this bad dream?

Gators were awesome last night. Ted Ginn would have been inconsequential to the outcome, IMHO, because FL never gave Troy an opportunity to be effective, period. It even seemed to me, possibly, that some of their sacks could have had much greater physical impact than they did. If so, then how bad is it when the DL has such total control they can back off a bit with light tackles?

 

[TJnTN]

Would someone please hit me and wake me up from this bad dream?

Gators were awesome last night. Ted Ginn would have been inconsequential to the outcome, IMHO, because FL never gave Troy an opportunity to be effective, period. It even seemed to me, possibly, that some of their sacks could have had much greater physical impact than they did. If so, then how bad is it when the DL has such total control they can back off a bit with light tackles?

I still don't understand why we didn't try for some of the quick stuff.....much like what they were doing to us and what USC did to Michigan. Drop into the shotgun and run the slants, screens, draws that are almost always there. Doesn't give UF time to get to Smith then. Where was the QB draw we saw so much against Texas last year? I know we lost that game too but it was effective. While the D is getting into the backfield your running right by them..........