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5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

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ORD_Buckeye;1839348; said:
For a moment, I was actually going to attempt a reasoned response to this gibberish. Ultimately, I just felt that the most appropriate response was this:

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I guess reasoning and rationale go out the window in your world
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
We're not talking about kids who left early for the NFL when we wanted them to stay...or transferred out....or sat out a year to focus on academics. We're not even talking about dumb decisions like getting busted for underage drinking or a bar scuffle.

We're talking about kids who knowingly violated NCAA rules for personal gain thus putting the integrity of the football program and reputation of the university into question. The Ohio State football program is NOT a family--it's a multi-million dollar business attached to a multi-billion dollar research university The importance of the latter, I might add, is of vastly more importance to the economic future of Ohio than the football team. These kids accepted a responsibility to Ohio State University when they chose to come here, accept a scholarship and represent the university in a highly public manner. They abrogated that trust and didn't live up to that responsibility. I'm not going to pretend that I'm Solomon and know exactly what that punishment should be. However, even if it's not ultimately decided upon, dismissal from the program should at least be on the table.
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Since we don't know their personal stories for the violations, we have no idea if they are putting the integrity of tOSU into question. It would be morally prudent to sell whatever we have that's a luxury to help our families. If that is the case (and its all speculation) then the integrity of the program remains as it always was i.e. very high. I think its all too easy to jump to conclusions.

However, in your comparison, you'd rather have a kid break the Ohio state law (or federal law) by drinking underage or getting into a "scuffle" at a bar (aka, some form of assault) because its just a "dumb decision". But if they violate NCAA bylaws (the highest of moral authorities)... so help me they are no longer a true Buckeye. Perspective maybe? What is truly important for me is that these guys are still Buckeyes, they broke no law and I hope they all return or leave for their futures for the right reasons.
 
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BuckITilEyeDie;1839349; said:
But why must they resort to selling personal achievements when the U itself is making millions because of them and their achievements?
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Puleez take this discussion elsewhere. Yeah, I think we all agree the system is somehow broken. But it is, nonetheless, the system that these fellas signed up for. Granted, they have no other system to sign up for.....but they signed the letter, they agreed to the rules...and then broke them. It's crappy for them, no doubt, but they knew this from the beginning.
 
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Diego-Bucks said:
Since we don't know their personal stories for the violations, we have no idea if they are putting the integrity of tOSU into question. It would be morally prudent to sell whatever we have that's a luxury to help our families. If that is the case (and its all speculation) then the integrity of the program remains as it always was i.e. very high. I think its all too easy to jump to conclusions.

However, in your comparison, you'd rather have a kid break the Ohio state law (or federal law) by drinking underage or getting into a "scuffle" at a bar (aka, some form of assault) because its just a "dumb decision". But if they violate NCAA bylaws (the highest of moral authorities)... so help me they are no longer a true Buckeye. Perspective maybe? What is truly important for me is that these guys are still Buckeyes, they broke no law and I hope they all return or leave for their futures for the right reasons.
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their are reasonable means to obtain reasonable help for student athletes (as well as students at large). your excuse, along with the moral/ethical logic are truly lacking.

but justify it how you must...
 
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matcar;1839357; said:
Puleez take this discussion elsewhere. Yeah, I think we all agree the system is somehow broken. But it is, nonetheless, the system that these fellas signed up for. Granted, they have no other system to sign up for.....but they signed the letter, they agreed to the rules...and then broke them. It's crappy for them, no doubt, but they knew this from the beginning.
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Exactly man!!

Go Bucks.
 
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BuckITilEyeDie;1839349; said:
But why must they resort to selling personal achievements when the U itself is making millions because of them and their achievements?
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Were they forced to resort to selling this stuff or did they choose to so they could get some sweet ink?

As for the millions, Ohio State's athletic department generates a pretty anemic profit. It does fully fund 36 varsity sports and gives back a small amount to the university's general fund; both of which should be commended. In the larger scheme of things, however, such as Ohio State's overall budget or even in comparison to how much the university receives annually in private donations or external research funding that contribution amounts to next to nothing.
 
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matcar said:
Puleez take this discussion elsewhere. Yeah, I think we all agree the system is somehow broken. But it is, nonetheless, the system that these fellas signed up for. Granted, they have no other system to sign up for.....but they signed the letter, they agreed to the rules...and then broke them. It's crappy for them, no doubt, but they knew this from the beginning.
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canadian college football?
candian football league?
that garbage league clarett plays in?
one of the dozen or so arena leagues?
one of the many euro/asian leagues?

not play college football and later try out? (granted the only nfl players i can think of who did this played another ncaa sport)
 
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matcar;1839357; said:
Puleez take this discussion elsewhere. Yeah, I think we all agree the system is somehow broken. But it is, nonetheless, the system that these fellas signed up for. Granted, they have no other system to sign up for.....but they signed the letter, they agreed to the rules...and then broke them. It's crappy for them, no doubt, but they knew this from the beginning.
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I'm sorry! I didn't know Jesus was amongst us........
 
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ScriptOhio;1839339; said:
Good article :)
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Maybe but this part...

If you're a Georgia fan, you have every reason to be miffed that receiver A.J. Green had to sit the first four games of this season for a very similar transgression (selling a game-worn jersey) while the offending Buckeyes sold some of their stuff more than a year earlier yet never missed a game.
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...is a real head scratcher.
 
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BuckITilEyeDie;1839349; said:
But why must they resort to selling personal achievements when the U itself is making millions because of them and their achievements?
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They are given the opportunity to get an education at a top-notch university (on the house) and showcase their skills for a possible lucrative career as a professional athlete. All that's asked in return, ultimately, is to play a game. Spare me the "they're being used" crap.
 
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